For me its Berry or Dez Bryant.

 

I like Suh quite a bit but I like him more as a 1 gap 3-4 player or a defensive tackle in a 4-3.

 

Dez Bryant would instantly be our number 1 Receiver and would be the return specialist that we so desperately need.

If not Bryant then I hope its Berry. I think the defense would be better with an elite safety.

 

Agree on both points. :knucks:
At this time, it's our offense that's losing games for us although the defense could definitely use an improvement.
If Dez's character issues aren't panned out, then there is no WR that I would take over TE Gresham IMO, and that would be a tough call over Berry, but I might give the nod to Gresh. Ask Sanchez, Romo, or Ryan-- every young QB can really benefit from a great TE.

I think we should just make a list of the most explosive playmakers and start from there. Now, if we ended up picking 6th, I'd like to make a move to take both. LOL.
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Would you spend a top 10 pick on him and hope he plays as well as a 3-4 DE? I wouldn't....too much risk for me.
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I think he could do it but looking at the state of our team, no.

 

LOL :lol:
Is it me or does this seemingly talent laden draft look to be fizzling out a tad?
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Haha, a little I guess. Not many players just standing out. You've got Suh, Berry and McCoy that stand out. Bradford's banged up, McCoy's been good but some still worry about him. Snead looks to have happy feet when pressured. Greg Hardy's got character issues. And everyone else just doesn't pop out to me.

I've been sitting here for the past hour, watching Michigan v. Notre Dame, watching Brian Smith of ND and Obi Ezeh of Michigan. Two guys who could be 2010 or 2011 draftees. I like Smith, reminds me a bit of Keith Rivers but he takes some terrible angles when he plays the run. Ezeh is a pure cover linebacker. Doesn't know how to play the run or at least not in this game. Donovan Warren is a nice player too. I want to see more of Brandon Graham but he's looked pretty good thus far.

 

With Monopoly money I think he could do it, too....but how about if $25 million of your personal money is on the line? Not judging...just putting you on the spot. ;)
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Sometimes the pick becomes tougher when you think about it coming from your own savings. LOL. Not referring to Suh...just saying in general. I forget that sometimes and have to remind myself. ;)

Alen, did you get to watch any of Houston's games yet? Curious how you feel about HB Bryce Beall. I really liked him, but maybe I missed some bad tendencies.

Oh.... Derrick Morgan was back to creating havoc vs UNC. I gotta put him as one of my top 4-3 DEs right now. Jury's still out as a hybrid.
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:lol: :up:

Nah I haven't watched any Houston's games. What do you like about Beall though? I don't know a single thing about him so I'm interested in your thoughts.

 

Berry or Spikes please.

Hernandez in the 2nd/3rd would be awesome as well.

 

If you get the chance to pick Eric Berry then I see no way that you pass it up. You're adding a Darren Sharper/Ed Reed type of player to your ball club. That to me is a huge no brainer. Dez Bryant is a tremendous talent and it's a decent bunch of interior linemen. A down the field threat at tight end would be nice. As would an ILB who actually makes plays.

 

ToddsPhins idea of adding another first round pick this year is growing on me. We could use two players from this draft. Dez Bryant and Eric Berry would kill.

 

...our wallet. Two top ten picks might be wishful thinking.

 

True, but so much talent.

 

Where are we getting this extra top 10 pick from?

 

Thin air apparently.

 

The Raiders. Duh!

 

Nothing was mentioned about 2 top 10 picks. We just said that acquiring an extra 1st rounder this year might greatly help us. Motion just inferred that 2 players we mentioned (Berry and Dez) will be top 10 picks.

If Berry were there at our pick, then I'd love to add him. I'm not sure I would use future picks for Dez, but if Gresham were sitting there in the 20's, then I'd have a difficult time not pulling the trigger to make it happen.... then still be able to nab a playmaking MLB like Micah Johnson in the 2nd....and a playmaking WR in the 3rd. IMO we desparately need 4 playmakers: 1 at TE, 1 at Safety, 1 at MLB, and 1 at WR.

 

So, Dez Bryant isn't projected to go 10-15?

 

Too early to tell. He might be projected higher come April. That's assuming he even goes pro (which he should, and I hope he does).

 

I just thought with the attitude problems, it would drop him down in that range.

 

Berry or Spikes and I would be a happy fan.

 

I'm keen to know how we're acquiring a 2nd first rounder?

 

My guess is people are considering trading future picks to try and pick up an extra one this year. Not sure I would condone this.

 

Correct...hypothetically trading future picks. I'm normally against this, but IMO we're at the do or die stage regarding addressing our playmaking inadequacies. If an impact playmaker falls to the 20+ range, then I'd be tempted to pull the trigger...especially considering our 2011 1st round pick won't be playing till 2011. If we can get a playmaker from our 2011 1st pick etc who will be contributing in 2010, then that has to be considered....especially if we're a few key players from being a contender.....and considering we don't know if an impact player of need will be available when we pick in 2011.

I also look at the quality of this draft that might push a normally top 15 talent into the late 1st round. Next year could see the exact opposite. We don't know. I'll sacrifice an extra pick if the right player is sitting there waiting to be plucked. All I know is we need playmakers more than depth. I'll take 1 playmaker over 3 average contributors with a smile this draft and next.... since teams don't win by being average. LOL

 

Never know....a LOT of analysts thought Devin Thomas would be taken in the 12-20ish range in 08....and he roughly was, but in the 2nd round. Same with Desean Jackson. The NFL draft can be randomly odd and perplexing at times. LOL

That's why I was referring to trading future picks. If a guy that we have graded out highly is available in the 20+ range, then why not sacrifice a little more than a future first round pick to get him (like Carolina did the past few years with Everette Brown and Jeff Otah...or Atl with Sam Baker)?

 

Lets hypothetically say we plan on taking a Safety 1st this year and a playmaking WR 1st next year....IMO trading a 2011 1st and 3rd for an extra 2010 1st can also be looked at as: the 2011 3rd buys us a year of extra WR developmental time.

IE: we need a playmaking WR ASAP right? 2 scenarios to consider based on the learning curve of an NFL WR.

Scenario 1. Let's say we draft a top WR 1st in 2011 and he gives us 400 receiving yards as a rookie.

Scenario 2. We trade 2011 1st and 3rd to get comparable impact WR one year sooner in 2010. He also has 400 yards as a rook, but in his 2011 Soph year (when WR in scenario 1 would only be a rookie) he has 1100 yards and 10 TDs.

Is it worth giving up the extra 3rd (and maybe 5th) to get an extra 700 receiving yards in 2011? To me it is. To me it's like we're sacrificing our 3rd to get sooner results from a position that's lacking in production.

 

1. We won't be trading future picks.

2. As we stand today and barring any sort of LeGarrette Blount action or a serious injury, Dez Bryant is a) the best WR in the draft and a b) a bona fida top 10 pick.

 

I'd take Berry or Spikes over Dez at this point(but I wouldn't take Spikes in the top 10 either). I am just not a big proponent of drafting WRs or HBs high in the first round - not because I feel Dez isn't worthy of it - more of how I feel about certain positions.

Now that Henne is the starter, I want to see how Ginn performs once Chad gets settled in after a couple of starts and the coaching staff (hopefully) turns him loose down the field. If Teddy still shows the same inconsistencies when the ball is getting to him faster with more velocity, then I may change my tune on Mr. Dez

 

Sam Bradford :shifty:

 

If we end up picking top 10 and Henne inherits the reigns next season, at this moment I would absolutely trade future picks for Gresham to give Chad a TE weapon to improve his development, or offense, our team, etc.... (provided Gresh is sitting at say #25+ and there aren't any other bonafide TE threats after him)

That could leave me with 1. Berry 1a. Gresham 2. MLB or playmaking WR (perhaps Micah Johnson or Mardy Gilyard) 3. MLB or playmaking WR

 

If your looking for a downfield receiving threat at TE, look no further than Aaron Hernandez. :up:

 

I like Hernandez a lot, but I like Gresham's height/size factor a little more for creating mismatches etc.

 

My main thing is, acquiring another first this season because the talent is so rich. Who we pick, depends on the who the FO drafts.

 

Why would you trade picks for a guy that's unlikely to be a 1st rounder anyway? He's probably not going to be 100% at the Combine.

I think Gilyard might be a slot guy at the next level because I wonder if he can consistently seperate against speedy corners. We have enough slot guys.

 

I don't think at this stage it's overly talent rich. The senior class is mediocre.