New OTA thread...6/9/14
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djphinfansubscriberOPJust thought we should start a new thread so folks can differentiate the days..up to mods if they wanna merge..
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Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 39m
Kind of foggy, but the Dolphins are practicing outside today. At least it is dry. pic.twitter.com/wLwgCuv7qn
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 38m
Find it interesting that Shelley Smith and David Arkin are both working on their snapping as centers.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 37m
Sam Brenner and Tyler Larsen are the backup centers behind Pouncey. And Nate Garner is the utility hitter, but Smith & Larkins are emergency
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 36m
We're entering week three of Koa Misi as the starting inside linebacker. Dannell Ellerbe is to his left and Philip Wheeler is to his right.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 35m
I'm watching a tight end package at features Michael Egnew on the line and Dion Sims as the H-back. Would think those roles would reverse.
Chris Perkins @chrisperk · 34m
#Dolphins rotating RBs Knowshon Moreno, Lamar Miller & Daniel Thomas w/1st team in drill right now. Interesting.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 34m
Jason Trusnik is the 2nd team inside linebacker and Jonathan Freeny is to his left, and Jelani Jenkins is to his right.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 33m
Jason Fox is finally working as the second team left tackle. That's the position he played in college at UM. That's where his value is.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 31m
Dallas Thomas is entering week 3 of OTAs as the starting left guard. That means he's holding off Billy Turner. But remember, no pads yet.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 31m
Brandon Gibson is running pre-practice dummy routes with the starting unit. I have no clue what that means. He hasn't worked with team yet.
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 31m
Quick observation: Jason Fox has been working as the backup left tackle. Garner was there last week.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 28m
This is new: During the team's stretch every player -linemen, defenders - is having the ball thrown to his by trainers and assistants.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 27m
Earl Mitchell continues to be paired with Randy Starks on the starting D-line. Not sure if that's due to Jared Odrick's injury or his role.
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 26m
Odrick again working with trainers
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 26m
Jared Odrick is working on the side with a trainer. He hasn't done anything team related this offseason. Not sure the nature of the injury.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 25m
Every unit, including the defensive backs, are doing position drills. If a DB drops he does 10 push ups. pic.twitter.com/qUDKmEQ24k
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 23m
The quarterbacks are working on their quick hitches. That's clearly a throw Ryan Tannehill should excel at because of his arm.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 22m
Jordan Tripp continues to work as the third team inside linebacker. He's paired with Chris McClain, who is to his left, and Derrell Johnson.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 21m
Offense tackles and tight ends are working on their tandem blocks. I suspect tight ends will have a very important role in this offense.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 20m
Considering how many packages the Dolphins have use tight ends I can envision four making it to the 53 safely, maybe five.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 17m
Dallas Thomas is getting work as the first-team LG for the third straight week. He's the leader in the clubhouse. #DolphinsOTAs
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 15m
Brandon Gibson has a helmet in his hands. Maybe he's doing some serious work today?
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 14m
Dolphins running red zone. Dallas Thomas and Shelley Smith are the guards. Lamar gets the first carry.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 14m
Rishard Matthews enters his third week as the starting spot. Brian Hartline is doing team drills for the second week in a row.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 14m
Lamar Miller is the #Dolphins' first-team RB. Knowshon Moreno still has work to do.
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 14m
Wallace beats Finnegan for a touchdown, but can't get his feet in-bounds.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 13m
Vernon would have sacked Tannehill during 11-on-11 red Zone, beating Albert. But Tannehill threw to Wallace, who caught out of bounds
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 12m
Wake has a free run at Tannehill from LDE. Would have been a hellacious collision in a game.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 13m
DE Cameron Wake with a would-be sack on QB Ryan Tannehill. It looks like the #Dolphins mixed up their protection.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 12m
No surprise, but Koa Misi is still the MLB. The #Dolphins are riding with their decision.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 12m
Nice run by Damien Williams during the red zone work. Great block by Charles Clay.
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 11m
The Dolphins are really mixing and matching. Knowshon Moreno just took a handoff from Brock Jensen.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 11m
Tackle for loss on Lamar Miller run by AJ Francis. High snap didn't help the play develop.
Chris Perkins @chrisperk · 11m
Correction...Moreno working with 3rd & 4th teamers. 1st & 2nd team on same field,
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 11m
Just realized Knowshon Moreno is working with the scrub unit. Ouch
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 11m
DE Dion Jordan does a solid job holding the point of attack against #Dolphins rookie RT Ja'Wuan James. Jordan's workouts are paying off.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 8m
Brandon Gibson is doing wind sprints. No practice again for Gibson, who is 7 months into ACL rehab. pic.twitter.com/qZPHeU5bcv
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 7m
Marcus Thigpen, Lamar Miller and Damian Williams are working as the team's kickoff returners.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 3m
Former. Dolphins Keith Byars H-back is here at practice. But he's far from the players.
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 3m
Believe Brandon Gibson just stepped inside after running wind sprints. He's been rehabbing from a torn patellar since October.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 2m
Daniel Thomas appears to be getting second team reps. Dolphins fans might not want to stick a fork in him just yet.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1m
It is so funny to watch when Brent Grimes gets bored. He's clearly got ADHD. He can't even pretend he can't sit still.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1m
Goal line 11 on 11s. Man's work now
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 1m
Sims and Clay were the goal-line tight ends on the first play.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1m
The Dolphins just used a package that featured Charles Clay, Dion Sims and rookie Harold Hoskins, who actually got the pass from Tannehill.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 38s
Lamar Miller just showed good speed getting to the edge. But everyone but @chrisperk knows he can do that.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1m
Tannehill rolls to right and finds Hartline in the back of the end zone on third down but the refs say Hartline is out of bounds.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1m
Good inside run from Knowshon Moreno during. Goal line work. Sets up a 4th and 2.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 2m
Daniel Thomas gets nothing on the 4th and 2 run. Insert womp womp sound.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1m
Matt Moore throws a duck on his first pass. No receiver near the ball.
Chris Perkins @chrisperk · 1m
Defense has drawn two offsides penalties during this goalline drill. No indication on who was offside.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1m
Mike Gillislee with a strong inside run that would have scored. Good block on the draw play.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1m
Orleans Darkwa just scored from the 2, untouched. They are facing the third team D-line, which is clearly being dominated.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 1m
I'm liking #Dolphins OC Bill Lazor's scheme so far. A lot of motions, a lot of formations.
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 1m
Wild, early prediction: Gaitor Hoskins will push Michael Egnew for a roster spot. He's working with the big boys today, with success.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 58s
Jason Trusnik with a nice stand up hit on an inside run drill.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 46s
But maybe I'm jaded by the Mike Sherman offense I watched all last year. Anything would look like an improvement. We will see. #Dolphins
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1m
Matt Moore scrambles right for a touchdown. I believe Jordan Kovacs would have lit him up, but refs puts his hands up.
Chris Perkins @chrisperk · 1m
Defense draws pass interference flag. That's three in goalline situation.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 2m
Matt Moore's pass to Kyle Miller draws like 4 flags for pass interference. It was a shower of flags.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1m
These are the Dolphins starting defensive backs. Write it down. No competition. pic.twitter.com/XRdli82xLU
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 47s
Jordan Tripp and Jelani Jenkins are paired together in the nickel package. That's intriguing.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 5s
#Dolphins RBs better know how to catch this year. There are opportunities there in this offense from what I've seen so far.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 2m
Based on what I've seen for 3 weeks now I'm very comfortable with Cortland Finnegan as the starter opposite Grimes. pic.twitter.com/WkVevcCRXb
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 59s
Idk if rookie DE Terrence Fede can play (let's see when the pads come on). But he moves pretty well for a player his size. #Dolphins
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 46s
I'm on week three of watching these motions from the offense. They are super confusing. Puts a lot of responsibility on the QBs.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 1m
Marcus Thigpen, Jarvis Landry, Damian Williams, Matt Hazel and Brent Grimes among #Dolphins players fielding punts today.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 52s
For the record, I'm against the thought of CB Brent Grimes doing punt return. Why risk it with one of your top three players? #Dolphins
Chris Perkins @chrisperk · 1m
Today's punt returners during drill: Landry, Grimes, Damian Williams, Thigpen, Matt Hazel, Rantavious Wooten.
Chris Perkins @chrisperk · 40s
Those who didn't like Dion Jordan on special teams last year won't like this: He's on punt coverage team right now.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 11s
It will be interesting to see if Brock Jensen can REALLY push Pat Devlin. The jury is out. pic.twitter.com/sc5hWyW4jl
Chris Perkins @chrisperk · 14s
S Michael Thomas just made nice defensive play vs. Mike Wallace in end zone.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 22s
Michael Thomas breaks up a Tannehill pass to Wallace during 7-on-7 from the 23. Still red zone stuff.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 35s
#Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill misses WR Mike Wallace twice in the end zone. Good coverage both times by the D.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 10s
Wallace drops his second pass during 7-on-7s inside the end zone.Throw would have gotten his ribs shattered cause it was between 2 defenders
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 26s
DBs are killing the WRs/TEs in 7-on-7s right now.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 18s
Good pass breakup by CB Jamar Taylor on TE Charles Clay in the end zone. #DolphinsOTAs
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 18s
Jamar Taylor breaks up a pass in the end zone to Charles Clay. Defense is hot today.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 11s
Matt Moore is having a Matt Moore -esque practice day.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 6s
#Dolphins rookie WR Jarvis Landry makes a nice snatch over the middle. He has a good pair of hands.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · now
Jarvis Landry just caught a drag route during 7-on-7 and went up field so quickly I said "WOW" out loud.
Chris Perkins @chrisperk 22s Devlin to Wallace for a TD!!
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly 10s
Pat Devlin just bulleted a TD pass to Mike Wallace, threading the needle. Great throw. Showed some zip.
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 1m
Rough day for Mike Wallace. Several drops.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 1m
Next drop of the day goes to...#Dolphins WR Mike Wallace.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 38s
Tannehill just threw a touchdown pass to Charles Clay during red zone 7-on-7. Great pass from Tannehill.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 13s
Good TD catch in 7-on-7 by TE Charles Clay. It may be Ryan Tannehill's best throw of the day. #DolphinsOTAs
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 6s
Will Davis' deflection make Jarvis Landry drop a catchable ball. You can tell he was trying to jump the route. I need to see his ballhawking
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1m
Armons Binns catches a TD pass on Brent Grimes from Matt Moore. Great play.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 43s
Lamar Miller is the starting tailback for the bulk of the work again today.
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 41s
Rishard Matthews with a great 8-yard completion during red zone work, take 2 of team drills. Tannehill on the throw.
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 13s
Spectacular TD catch by Stephen Williams on Grimes.
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL · 10s
DB Jimmy Wilson on the blitz and gets right to QB Ryan Tannehill for a would-be sack. #DolphinsOTAs
slickj101forum_veteranGrimes fielding punts is a horrible idea.
Silence
It's ******* Golden.
Stitchesluxury_box"slickj101 wrote:
Grimes fielding punts is a horrible idea.
He did it in practice last year too.
2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU
Ohio FanaticsubscriberI really hope they don't keep Grimes back there returning punts, even in practice.
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DisgustipatesubscriberCan anyone name any special teams injury cautionary tales?
Stitchesluxury_box"Disgustipate wrote:
Can anyone name any special teams injury cautionary tales?
From catching punts, or covering all forms of kicks? And are we limited to practice injuries only?
2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU
Alex13subscriberdon't mention the word with the i and ending with the y, we should put a sticky down for this....dont talk about it !!!!
gunn34New MemberAdam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 14m
Wallace beats Finnegan for a touchdown, but can't get his feet in-bounds.
That's not a TD then.
ckparrotheadmoderator"gunn34 wrote:
That's not a TD then.
Probably should be re-worded that Finnegan was beaten for a TD but the receiver couldn't get his feet down. It's not a plus for Wallace if he can't finish the play with his feet, but it is probably a minus for Finnegan because the description implies that Wallace should've been able to do it.
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ckparrotheadmoderatorGator Hoskins is the guy that poses the biggest threat to Michael Egnew. But as a UDFA, I'm not sure that threat is as big as some would make of it. I've been onto the guy as a draft prospect forever, talking about him all year...but he's a UDFA now. They don't enter the process with a lot of street cred. Most are cut, some make the practice squad. If nobody wanted the guy in the draft then there's a good chance nobody wants him off waivers unless A) he makes big plays in preseason, or B) there was a nother team hot after him as a UDFA but Miami outbid for him. The latter doesn't seem to be the case and we'll see on the former.
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Pennington's Limp Armforum_veteranHard to get excited about the state of the running game this year... but I guess Moreno stole PT from Ball/Hillman last year once the hitting actually started. And once the health of the QB was actually at stake.
I hope Mike is getting all those drops out of the way now!
jdang307subscriber"Disgustipate wrote:
Can anyone name any special teams injury cautionary tales?
Jason Sehorn?
Pennington's Limp Armforum_veteranJames Walker@JamesWalkerNFL 1h Dion Jordan with a would-be sack on #Dolphins QB Matt Moore. The D is winning in the trenches today.
James Walker@JamesWalkerNFL 1h
Cameron Wake with another would-be sack on QB Ryan Tannehill. Two on the day for Wake. The #Dolphins' pass pro is shaky today.
James Walker@JamesWalkerNFL 2h
Backup LT Jason Fox w/the false start. The #Dolphins' offense is a little sloppy today w/drops, missed protections and two false starts.
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Unstoppable attack on the QB... should be the theme for our defense this year if everything pans out the way it should.
Disgustipatesubscriber"Stitches wrote:
From catching punts, or covering all forms of kicks? And are we limited to practice injuries only?
Whatever, something that suggests good players on special teams is a noteworthy risk outside of the realm of theory.
Paul 13moderator"jdang307 wrote:
Jason Sehorn?
circa 1993, Troy Vincent out for the season on punt return. I'll submit that was one of the reasons why he left Miami a couple of years later, went to the Eagles... made 5 pro bowls there.
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jdang307subscriberSehorn is the first off the top of my head. There have been others. But Sehorn's injury was devastating to his career.
Special Teamers carry a significantly higher risk of injury.
http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/data/Dangers-of-the-Game-Draft-Esquire.pdf (page 17)
Also, how many plays per injury:
It's an unnecessary risk unless the player is special (Percy Harvin etc.)
ckparrotheadmoderatorCortland Finnegan states that he's been working exclusively on the outside and that Jimmy Wilson has the slot job "locked up".
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Stitchesluxury_box"Disgustipate wrote:
Whatever, something that suggests good players on special teams is a noteworthy risk outside of the realm of theory.
I could name a handful, but I wouldn't classify most as good.
2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)
22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU
ckparrotheadmoderatorMy concern about Finnegan being on the outside would be him being physically bullied around especially in the end zone. He's not a Brent Grimes.
Here's a good example what I'm talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKRZwRSOapQ
You can go ahead and claim that's pass interference but the fact of the matter is the officials are not calling offensive pass interference on that play 9 times out of 10, even with Cortland Finnegan's flop.
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Fineasluxury_box"Disgustipate wrote:
Can anyone name any special teams injury cautionary tales?
It's a good question. For years I've heard people talking about not wanting legit players returning kicks/punts due to risk of injury, but it seems to me returners very rarely get injured on returns. The return injury that most comes to mind was Ted Ginn's in the BCS game and that was in the celebration, not the play itself. Devin Hester has been retruning kicks for 8 years and has never had any serious injuries. Brian Mitchell did it for 12 years or so and hardly ever missed a game. Eric Metcalf was also largely injury free as a returner for a very long time.
And you really don't see that many injuries to coverage team guys or retrun blockers either. At least not that stop play or require medical attention on the field.
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VManissubscriber"Fineas wrote:
It's a good question. For years I've heard people talking about not wanting legit players returning kicks/punts due to risk of injury, but it seems to me returners very rarely get injured on returns. The return injury that most comes to mind was Ted Ginn's in the BCS game and that was in the celebration, not the play itself. Devin Hester has been retruning kicks for 8 years and has never had any serious injuries. Brian Mitchell did it for 12 years or so and hardly ever missed a game. Eric Metcalf was also largely injury free as a returner for a very long time.
And you really don't see that many injuries to coverage team guys or retrun blockers either. At least not that stop play or require medical attention on the field.
If that's the case, and I'm not saying you're wrong, why do they keep changing the rules for KO and punts in the name of player safety?
jdang307subscriberMarc Mariani injury update: Titans kick returner suffers broken leg
Randall Cobb
Cobb was injured when tackled by Tennessee's Tracy Wilson while returning a punt with 8:38 left in the third quarter - a game in which Cobb set the franchise single-season record for all-purpose yardage. On his previous two punt returns, Cobb had gained 14 and 17 yards.
You can be injured on any given play of course. So the question is, is it worth it? If it is, you play him (Desean Jackson returning a punt because you need a miracle to win the game). If it isn't, you don't.
Fineasluxury_box"VManis wrote:
If that's the case, and I'm not saying you're wrong, why do they keep changing the rules for KO and punts in the name of player safety?
They obviously think it is an issue and act like it is. And maybe there are alot of coverage guys that get hurt but walk off on their own power and we don't notice the injury. But you rarely see major injuries on returns and almost never see the returner get injured, even though a lot of those guys are small guys under 180 lbs. or so. That's not to say nobody is ever injured on retruns, but it seems to be less frequest than people think/assume.
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Alex44New Member"VManis wrote:
If that's the case, and I'm not saying you're wrong, why do they keep changing the rules for KO and punts in the name of player safety?
They aren't trying to eliminate kick returner injuries, they are trying to cut down on high speed collisions with players running full speed at one another causing possible long term brain damages.
On the draft Quentin Rollins bandwagon.
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Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley · 1m
Wild, early prediction: Gaitor Hoskins will push Michael Egnew for a roster spot. He's working with the big boys today, with success.
I hope Gator Hoskins makes the team.
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