Ryan tannehill 8TH PICK 2012 DRAFT
Russell wilson 75th pick 2012 draft
Nick foles 88th pick 2012 draft
Kirk cousins 102th pick 2012 draft.
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Wilson. I wanted the Dolphins to pass on Tannehill and take Wilson in the second round in the 2012 draft.
The only thing which has changed since then is that now I would want the Dolphins to take Wilson with their first round draft pick.
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Wilson is very much dependent on being on a team with a great running game and a stellar defense. We have neither of those.
Foles is a product of the Kelly system more than anything else.
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I'm not sure how anyone can really say that they would rather have XXXX player on the team instead of who we have currently. It all has to do with their coaching and fitting a scheme around them. Do you think if any of the other 3 QB's were here instead of Tannehill with his same coaching and play calling that we would just be lighting it up on offense? Theres no way Wilson would be as effective as a QB on our team as he is with Seattle. He has one of the best Defenses in the league to lean back on and one of the best Running backs in the league to hand the ball to. I honestly think that if we had any of the other QB's listed we would all be complaining about the same things with the same threads every week.
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Foles or Cousins. Contrary to popular belief Wilson isn't a very good QB. His offense is brilliantly built so that he doesn't have to make reads except once in a blue moon.
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The only one of those who has exhibited elite traits is Russel Wilson with his intelligence and play-making ability. Even despite his size and perhaps not elite passing talent, I'd take him above the rest.
We've all seen with Tannehill that perhaps great arm talent is meaningless without the extra attributes to complement them.
I'm about done watching Tannehill's poor decision-making and weak play-making ability. -
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Another year, another 100+ passer rating. Ho-hum.
His PFF rating is a -4.6!!! LMFAO!!!
That place is QUICKLY becoming a joke. The Collinsworth Curse.Stringer Bell likes this. -
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vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member
Wilson and not even close..not even sure what the point of the thread is.
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vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member
Wilsons head is years ahead of how long hes been in NFL. Game has just slowed way down for him...Jordan used to say when its like this the basket looks huge. Wilson all day and 7 times on Sunday.
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Anyone can look back several years and show a list of players that have performed better, on better teams to say look, maybe we screwed up! However, so did 20 some odd other teams then, but whatever. -
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Well according to Pro Football Focus, Russell Wilson has only been the 29th best quarterback out of 35 qualifying quarterbacks this year. Slightly worse than Josh McCown.
So there's that.
LMFAO.
Pro Football Focus quickly becoming a joke. They NEVER should have shined such a bright light on their ratings system. Stick to being a stats shop. They're discovering that even if you try and take subjectivity out of the grading process, the intellectual choices you make about the structure of the process create subjectivity, systematic bias and really crazy results that everyone realizes does not foot with reality.emocomputerjock and Dolphans Unite! like this. -
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Can someone please find out why Tannehill wont use his damned legs. Please..its about to make me loose my marbles.
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Wilson was able to play on a team with a great running game and defense. That goes a long way to allowing a young QB to develop.
Foles sat behind a veteran QB for over a year before being put into the game (this used to be the norm).
Cousins also had the luxury of sitting behind another QB.
I think NFL teams in general are doing themselves a disservice by starting rookie QBs on the idea that they will 'learn' on the job. The transition to the NFL for a QB has to be difficult. There's generational players like Luck and Peyton who can star right away, but other QBs need time to learn. I don't think starting is conducive to learning especially in NFL when a great deal of pressure if on the QB to propel the team's offense forward and deal with the weekly game planning when they should be focusing on footwork/form/etc or learning the offensive system.
If you don't have a generational player or a system that is designed to support a young QB...don't start them.
This isn't a pass for Tannehill, but if you take a QB who is...say average...and expect them to develop 'on the job', that just seems like a recipe for failure. Throw in a rookie head coach and unproven offensive system....yeah....not gonna work out well. -
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It's fun to imagine, anyway. I wish I had a nickel for every time somebody talks about how Seattle's offense is "brilliant" in how it disguises Wilson's inabilities. I could retire on "Seattle's offense is really simple," as well.
I'm pretty sure that if he's healthy enough, and he keeps going, we'll get to hear these same arguments in the days leading to his induction into Canton. That is how I could eventually build an island of nickels in the South Pacific. -
I don't know how anyone can say Wilson is a product of the system or he's good because of the team he's on. I was a big fan of his coming into that draft. Go back and look at some highlights of him at Wisconsin. He was amazing and made outstanding throws. It was clear to me that he could excel in the NFL.
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