Love Philbin's attitude. I'm hoping his tenure here exceeds 10 years... This year will be critical though for the franchise and his long term viability as a coach here. If Ireland goes who knows what happens with Philbin.
I will say this - the guy has balls and I don't think he operates to maintain an image.

For a franchise steeped in history of Shula, his no nonsense approach and disdain for malcontents and cancerous players will hopefully restore this team to glory sooner than later.

 

Eh, problem with meticulous in the NFL is it also limits creativity and instincts.

Only with Philbin, we did try a lot of things on special teams last yr, most did not work but he at least let Rizzi be creative.

 

All hail Coach Joe

 

Not sold on him at all. Still has a lot to prove.

 

He's learned. He steps over the litter in the bubble now

 

Meticulous is not the opposite of creativity. Creativity is not the catalyst for winning either.

 

I like our coach more than any other since Shula. The biggest thing I would like to see improved on is the team getting off to a fast start every game. Its almost like they just woke up and walked on the field sometimes. No fire..... fix that, and we are in good shape.

 

I do believe there has been a lack of creativity with the offense with his tenure. There has been limited opportunity with a rookie QB and limited options so I hope that improves this year. I want to see more than the sideline pass to Hartline, straight ahead run and 20 yard, pass patterns. The formations are rather bland also no bunched up receivers running pic plays at the goal line, no play action, limited screen passes and misdirection. We pass out of shotgun and run from under center. It's been said before, we're amaturisly easy to figure out on offense, though it was players that said that of Sparano, I haven't seen any improvement yet.

 

Go Coach Phil! Go phins! :knucks:

 

Creativity got us to the playoffs in 2008, and died there. I'm more of a believer in sound, disciplined, fundamental play within an established system. That's what he's trying to put on the field every week.

 

Disagree. If anything, being meticulous in these types of adversarial situations can open the doors to being able to use one's creativity effectively.

I'll bet one of the things Shula likes best about Philbin is his meticulousness, which was a hallmark of Shula's coaching also. And while some may see Shula as more of a chiseled-jaw task master, the truth of the matter is that he was often very creative at times. Bill Walsh, often sighted for his creative genius, was also quite meticulous. As was Paul Brown.

 

Creativity is all good, but in the end you win with talent, which isn't the coach's responsibility alone. This team will win or lose because of the talent that Jeff Ireland brought in, which is a daunting thought.

 

It's pretty obvious that there was quite a bit of corroboration between Ireland and Philbin as to the talent that was brought in. It was even disclosed that Ireland and the coaching staff gave the coaches video of the players that were available and had the coach's opinions on those players before FA started.

 

Not entirely the truth. Coaching matters. (See SF 49ers pre and post Harbaugh)

Bringing the talent in is only half the puzzle - Utilizing the talent you have in the best way possible is just as important for success. (See Bill Bellichek)

 

I have never been such a fan of a coach since Shula left. Shula obviously agrees. This guy will succeed here.

 

I think a good player who is fired up (ala Ray Lewis) could fix that. Not sure we have a guy like that yet.

 

We have the coach we've been looking for. We have the QB we've been looking for.

All that is missing is patience from the fanbase.

Wildcard Playoff loss this year.

Contenders next year.

As it is written, so let it be done.

A-Joe-men.

 

Why does it have to be either or? Disciplined, fundamental play, can co exist with creativity. Chip Kelly, for instance.

 

I don't think creativity is the right word. I think 'adaptability" is. You have to be creative to adapt...its inherent.

Adaptability, is basically focused creativity, and that's what we need from a coach on the field. Look at Shula. Look at Belichick.

 

The reason discipline and fundamentals are important is that they give you a foundation and a structure.
This allows you to try creative things in the correct way.

You look back at the wildcat and it always felt like a seat of their pants thing, almost as if they were just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what would stick, and it did, for a while. Then it fell.

When you have a solid foundation and a basis for everything you can then start to push the envelope and get results that will last.

 

Only in Miami. Elsewhere, it evolved into the NFL's read option. The Pat White pick was our piss poor attempt to evolve it.

 

My point exactly. We didnt have the proper foundation to keep it up. Didn't really have the proper personel, coaching or or basic skill sets.

 

Maybe, but he is the first intelligent coach we have had in awhile, and probably the best coach since Jimmy Johnson...

 

Saban was intelligent, he was just a horrible, horrible person.

Philbin is all you want in a coach. He even dances a jig for his players after a win in the locker room, away from cameras, not because he's embarrassed, but because its for the team only.

 

I've always told my Dolphin buddies that he reminds me of a white Tony Dungy.
Not being racist here, that is a great compliment. Many good qualities about him...

 

He's more like Bill Walsh, IMO.

 

No problem in setting the bar higher.

 

Creatively applied fundamentals, I would choose "innovative".

..unfortunately less so toward Sherman.

 

Shula/Marino & Philbin/Tannehill:up:

 

I love how in hindsight, the coaching of Sparano and the use of the Wildcat offense is now looked down upon. In 2008, when the Dolphins were winning 11 games and going to the playoffs, the use of the Wildcat offense and the coaching of Sparano was praised by Dolphin fans.

While Sparano eventually turned out to be a HC in over his head, he was viewed as a savior by many Dolphin fans after the 2008 season. Philbin may or may not turn out to be a good coach in the NFL, but we have no way of knowing that after only one season as an NFL head coach. Especially since that one season ended with the Dolphins once again being a sub 500 team.

The problem with the Dolphins over the past five years has had a lot more to do with the overall lack of talent on the roster, than it had to do with the coaching or the schemes utilized by the coaching staff. When you don't have a top tier QB, and your offensive line is below average, your team isn't going be a consistent winner in the NFL.

This year, hopefully Tannehill will prove to be a top tier QB and the offensive line will develop into at least a solid unit.

Bill Belichick was deemed a failure in Cleveland as a HC because he didn't have a top tier QB. In New England, once Brady became one of the best QB's in the history of the NFL, Belichick has been seen as a genius. It is all about the QB, not the HC. John Fox was run out of Carolina, but now he is the HC of the Broncos. Is he now a great HC, or is he merely someone who is lucky that Elway was able to convince Peyton Manning to sign with the Broncos?

The reality is that great QB's make the coaches, it isn't the other way around. If Tannehill develops into a top tier QB, Philbin will be seen as a top NFL coach. If he doesn't, Philpin will be looking for a job, just as Sparano was after leaving the Dolphins. In fact if Philbin was stuck with Henne as his starting QB this year, his job would probably be on the line after this season is over.

 

Most here are very encouraged by Coach Philbin and I agree. I'm more encouraged now than at any time since Coach Shula retired.

That said, Coach Philbin does have a lot to prove. Like it or not last year was a losing season, no excuses. This year we need a winning season, no excuses. We're in an easy division, that ought to help.