As I read these threads I can't help but notice most are acting like this one guy is going to be the savior of the Miami Dolphins.
It seems as if the optimism is causing us to ignore or not really worry about what is staring us in the face.
There are still a lot of holes in this team. We are bumping up against the cap and now it is being reported Suh is going to get 60 mill guaranteed first 3 years.
We still have to resign Tannehill or is this where it gets interesting?? I have seen Tannehill numbers at 15 mill a yr. Is it possible we could possibly loose Tannehill if we can't come up with the coin to pay him, given all our other obligations which look heavy.
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I am not saying it is not possible. What I do see is this team will look nothing like it did 3 months ago next year in order to make this happen. Mike Wallace's days are definitely numbered and Tannehill may have to take a pay cut to continue playing here or test free agency. I thing letting a 4000 yrd QB test free agency would be a huge mistake, but I guess they could always tag him. Of course that could back fire in our faces if we are not careful and someone bids him up.
So for the purpose of this thread : What holes do we still need to fill and what will our team look like.
I got a feeling we will be signing a lot of inexpensive young players.
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One guard, one backup guard, a WR for depth, one starting LB, one CB for depth, on safety.
Draft and the rest of free agency. Plenty of time and resources available. we should be a playoff team next year given growth from Tannehill, Landry, Clay, Wallace, Turner, James, Dion Jordan, etc. -
Safety, Guards, WR for now.
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linebackers we can patch it up a bit.. safety and cornerback has to be addressed... receiver and guard has to be addressed.. My guess is. we're going receiver or trae waynes the first round, we're going to rely on Albert's health and put anyone at guard. and we'll look into a safety via trade or free agency..
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This franchise is so jaded. We're signing one of the greatest defensive players of all time, IN HIS PRIME, and people are looking like they're sucking on lemons.
Oh, and we should draft a receiver in round one.TotoreMexico, Brasfin, LI phinfan and 6 others like this. -
TotoreMexico and Phins Up Wins Up like this.
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Wr, g, lb, cb, s
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In order: 1) corner, 2) MLB, 3) YAC receivers, 4) guard.
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No one is saying him alone will help this team contend. Don't put words into other people's mouths. But with him making everyone better it's not like they need a HOF LB playing behind him. They are still shedding salary cap and will cut Wallace at least by next year. You need to pay some guys big, some will take pay cuts, and you got the draft where guys won't be making a load of money. They can still sign 2 or 3 more guys and then keep building through the draft. Chill dude.
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suh does help fix a lot of issues on defense, i doubt with him we will be giving up 200 yards on the ground to teams.
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People act like the Dolphins FO hasn't examined every angle here, and figured out how they can get the players they want/need if they sign Suh. That what these guys are paid to do. Let them do their jobs. Let's enjoy our defense stomping opponents next season. Let's enjoy Wake coming off the end without double teams. Let's enjoy teams not sending RBs or QBs straight up the middle on us next season. Let's enjoy opposing QBs not having ask day to throw against us.
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1) Big, physical, can go up and get the ball WR, young vet or draftee;
2) CB, somebody young and promising, or no-lose draftee, which will be hard;
3) Guard(s)...take off the (s) if Billy's good to go. Tired of the OL issues;
4) MLB, lots of options there.
Do you think Tannenbaum has faith in Hickey's low-round drafting ability? Seems they're going to need to hit some deep picks / UDFAs this year. -
PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member
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Haha...yeah, I thought of that after I posted it...too lazy to edit the wording, though.
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PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member
We (no doubt whatsoever in my mind) would've been in the playoffs. Denver game woulda been a blowout...KC game would've been much closer if not a W...Baltimore game was close for the most part, he would have made a major difference there. Possibly even sweeps of the Jests and Jills. Green Bay game....nevermind...that one's stricken from memory...gone with Wheeler.
I say he makes us a contender for a deep playoff shot...as long as the other holes are at least filled with average to above-average players (except WR...need a beast)...don't need pro-bowlers, and can't make Ellerbe/Wheeler mistakes (not that they could afford to anyway...even with the cap going up $10M). Tannenbaum/Hickey have been in the league long enough to work this.resnor likes this. -
Safety: Jones - XXX
CB: XXX - Grimes
LB: (W)Jenkins - (M) XXX - (S) Misi
DL: Vernon - Mitchell - Suh - Wake
RB: Miller (Williams)
QB: Tannehill (XXX)
TE: Clay (Sims)
Out WR: Wallace - XXX
Slot WR: Landry - Matthews
OL: Albert - Turner - Pouncey - XXX - James
Those are the 6 major holes. Fill in the XXX's.
- Not sure about Shelly Smith's chances of filling in that Guard hole, I would hope not, but he has yet to be cut.
- For the most part I like our young depth players who won't be starting. But OL, S, RB and DB might need some cheap depth added (on top of the 6 holes). -
Can see the Dolphins going defense heavy with the rest of their FA, and then go offense heavy in the draft. Reports surfacing so far suggest they're looking at CBs and Ss.
I can see them getting a CB and a S, maybe even a linebacker on the low, then going for young offensive play-makers in the draft.Bpk likes this. -
Because some, myself included, want to make sure we can afford it
Can't speak for anyone else, but I would like to make sure we are not mortgaging the entire future of the franchise on one ****ing guy. If we were one guy away - maybe. But we are not even close to being one guy away.
Talk about the playoffs all you want, but as I have repeatedly said, the object is not to make the playoffs, it is to win the super-bowl.
Suh is not going to make that happen I don't care how much you pay him. -
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if you want talk about how we can fit other players under the cap with a contract this size then frame your question correctly, which is not saying that ''most'' of us are spouting off thinking we won the Super Bowl.LI phinfan, MrClean, Phins Up Wins Up and 1 other person like this. -
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ort-chargers-franklin-have-agreement-in-place -
PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member
Man I'd kill to see the team pull in 2 big time WRs in this draft. I know it's a reach, I'd just love to see it. I'm so high on DGB.
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We have some young players who will have to step up. Matthews, Thomas, Turner, Jordan, Taylor, Aikens, Thomas, etc. Starks is probably gone so add Johnson/Francis. CB, MLB, WR, S are the spots to focus on.
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1) Big, physical, can go up and get the ball WR, young vet or draftee - Double up in the draft on Amari Cooper in Round One (move up using 3rd rounder this year and 3rd and 5th round picks from 2016... typical Tannenbaum) and nab Vince Mayle in round 4.
2) CB, somebody young and promising, or no-lose draftee, which will be hard; - Disagree. I think you go non-expensive Free Agent here, maybe one old and one young - Rashean Mathis and one of Culliver or Robinson. Then you hope Taylor or Davis takes a step.
3) Guard(s)...take off the (s) if Billy's good to go. Tired of the OL issues; - Have a feeling Turner will play. I'd look at a middling Free Agent (don't care who and don't know the mediocre Guard market well enough), would also bring in a 5th round Guard and give him a legit chance to impress in the rotation in camp.
4) MLB, lots of options there - I want Kendricks. But we'd have to move up to get him. I think that looks like our 2nd round pick, plus the 2016 2nd round pick and this years 6th and throw in a player like Matthews who is a decent WR that this staff simply won't play.
This approach fills a lot of holes. But it also means w only have a 1st, 4th, 6th and 7th in the 2016 draft. I think it's worth it to come away with Cooper and Kendricks, plus other prospects in your pocket. UDFA's would have to include a power running back and developmental TE with great measurables (think small school). haven't scouted TE prospects enough yet to know who that would be or if he even exists this year. -
Safety: Delmas and pray someone develops as his injury replacement.
CB: One of Mathis/Culliver/Robinson - unless out-competed by Taylor in camp.
LB: Kendricks via draft
QB: Don't care who backs Tanny up.
Outside WR: Amari Cooper & Vince Mayle for REDZONE
OL (Guard): Have a mediocre FA and 5th rounder compete. It's the Dolphins way. -
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Imo we should be trading down in the draft. More picks, more young/cheap talent, more depth.
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I don't disagree with you, if you have a staff that gets rookies, and second year guys prepared and into the line-up quickly. And not low-snap count roles. Heavy lifting. -
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QB and CB
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