Interview this morning on WQAM with "The Big Dog" Joe Rose
about 6 minutes in he gives his opinion on Ginn :up:
http://wqam.com/index.php?page=347
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if you also listen to the ricky call in on the Ronnie Brown Show i think most of you will enjoy what ronnie has to say about the jets and the wildcat towards the end.
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love the fact thatmadison said our pass pressure sucked. i'm tired of hearing our sack statistics and making it seem like we are getting consistent pressure. our pass pressure sucked all year long except when we played buffalo
also great point about how a system that allowed gibril to play run first allowed wilson to thrive but the system hgere that forced him to play off the ball put him in a system that didnt play to his strengths
interesting that he likes fasano. fasano did pick it up end of seasonFin Fan In Cali likes this. -
so no one cared to comment about sams opinion of ted ginn. there are people here that justify ted ducking out of bounds and going to the ground to avoid a hit.
not sam madison he used hines ward as an example of how ted ginn should play
said that ginn should look upfield after making a catch instead of falling to the ground
you never know when a defensive player will miss
also talks about how ted is not a physical wr and it isnt tough to take him out of his game
im beating a dead horse i know but wanted to point out that the opinion of an ex Dolphin cornerback who was a great player trumps the opinion of the Ginn supporters -
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Or maybe it is a take one to know one.jdang307 likes this. -
you do know and hopefully understand that Madison went to four straight pro bowls right
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Madison at one time was arguably the best shut down corner in the league and could jam the shoes off your feet at the line.
If he says he jammed Ginn until he quit......I'm buying that2socks and adamprez2003 like this. -
everyone complains about him being so awful but he is a good player
the dolphins just dont have a clue on how to use him
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Look I firmly feel what Madison said about Ginn was right on the money.
I will say however that in the back of my head I did chuckle about Sam Madison calling someone out on being physical. He was a great cover corner but the weak point he had in his game was that he HATED to tackle. He looked like a Matador out there all the time and it drove me crazy. LOL.jdang307 and adamprez2003 like this. -
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Madison is just calling it like it is, Walks like a duck, swims like a Duck... must be a duck. I dont see Bess and Hartline going anywhere. Ginn is just another Chambers type player only even more scared to take a hit, nothing against the guy but I seriously hope we don't have to endure another 6-7 years of "next year is going to be his breakout year" like we did with Chambers.
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Nobody wants to point out the numerous times Ginn has not searched for the sidelines. The times he duked it out on Sunday blocking for runs. Mixing it up with the DB (forget his name). fact of the matter is, if he played like Hines Ward he may end up like Pat. It's not brave, it's stupid, and he's not build like that. Get over it. Sam was built like that and he did not play tough, so that's why it's more troubling that he would make an irrational comparison like that.
I've said this time and time again and no, Ginn is no Harrison, but Harrison avoided contact like the plague. I watched him go to the ground when he catches the ball in the middle and it isn't a clear path to the end zone. HE ran amazing routes and that's what I want Ginn to learn. I do not want him to fight for that extra yard and get knocked silly, he's smaller than everyone on the other side, and closer to the line he's about half their weight. I want him to concentrate on routes, on us concentrating on hitting him in stride like we had a couple times this year already.8 more of those a year and we're talking about a damn good passing attack.adamprez2003 likes this. -
"We knew we could take him out of the game because we heard he wasn't physical. I go over there and I jam him and he can't get off the jam. Then I tell the rest of the guys. Now, the whole team is gunning to make him quit by hitting him hard and making you get down on the ground."
Madison never said anything about how he himself was laying the wood to Ginn...what he said was that he discouraged him by not letting him get off the jam. And then.....went to his team mates, told them how soft he was and "they" started hitting him.
This isn't a far fetched scenario given the way Ginn gets pushed around at the line and altho Sam was never physical as far as tackling, he was known for getting a good jam on the WR. -
he also compared him to Hines Ward. who in their mind makes that comparison? I'm comparing Warrick Dunn to Brandon Jacobs then.
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the comment would have had more relevance if it was about this year. to call him out for being a rookie is lameMrClean likes this. -
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so when do we start the Sean Smith Sucks threads because he cant tackle? I mean if Ginn is a wimp isnt Sean Smith ?
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This is just another one of those phantom "improvements" he's made to his game.....like that myth about his improved route running.
Is he better in many aspects than he was as a rookie? Yeah but you'd need an electron microscope and something involving a laser to actually measure those improvements.NaboCane likes this. -
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyPtJF-IgPc&feature=related"]YouTube- Ted Ginn Jr Smokes Darrelle Revis For 53 Yard TD Catch[/ame] -
Hey, im one of the people on here that are largely against the way ted ginn plays and that he needs to get out. I just didnt bother to comment on it because ive commented on it sooooo many times and i thought it would be nice to talk about some other interesting topics. -
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We need to be careful because according to some of the Ginn supporters Madison is not a real dolphin fan but a fake fan. How dare he point out the obvious.
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