Agreed.

We can't be too mad at Campbell week after week.

This is the mess Philbin left him.

 

While we cant get mad at Campbell, he cant be our head coach heading to 2016. I thank Campbell for giving me two weeks of enjoyment when he came in, but he does not have the Experience and we cant take a gamble on him, and back ourselves up another 3 years.

 

So two weeks after he was fired those blowout wins proved the team had talent and all it needed was a real coach and now we have proof the team is, and always was uncoachable? Which is it?

 

add blocker is your friend

 

Actually this mess was created by a clueless owner who has no idea how to hire competent individuals in the front office or on the coaching staff.

Blaming anyone except Ross for the past six years under his ownership really doesn't make much sense.

 

Not here to point fingers, I think Campbell has done the best he could, it's a shame this couldn't have been some Hollywood story that turned out to be the Oakland As moneyball situation. What Philbin created was a hot mess from the beginning. His first year here had me believing but after everything else it quickly soured. Once we lost to Jacksonville this year I knew we were in trouble. This has been the worst year i've had as a sports fan since I can remember. Philbin left us in quite a hole, but Stephen Ross helped him dig it, and I'm not sure where we go from here. I still believe in Tannehill, but he should be on a short leash next season.

 

The shame is all of the assets that were lost or given away because Queasy didnt like the cut of their jib and all of the draft picks we had to waste to replace them when we could have used those draft picks on the OL.

BTW only the staff have the tools to assess if a banned member has signed with an alternate name.

 

The 2013 offseason was and probably will continue to be crippling:

Consider the free agents signed:

Wallace - gone
Ellerbe - gone
Wheeler - gone
Grimes - likely gone after this year

Consider the Draft:

1) Dion Jordan - suspended, likely gone
2) Jamar Taylor - awful, should be gone
3) Dallas Thomas - awful, should be gone
3) Will Davis - gone
4) Jelani Jenkins - quality starter
4) Dion Sims - quality backup/potential starter
5) Mike Gillislee - gone
5) Caleb Sturgis - gone
7) Don Jones - gone
UDFA - Sam Brenner - gone
UDFA - Jordan Kovacs - special teamer only

Ireland & Philbin's handiwork still haunts and will continue to haunt. When all is said and done, the lone talent from 2013 will be Jenkins and Sims. I'd argue that Dennis Hickey is probably closing in on that trail based off of 2014. 2015, remains to be seen, but we know that Tannenbaum has fingerprints all over this past offseason.

 

That Brandon Marshall is a pretty good WR. Wonder what i'd be like to have him on our team.

 

And we got rid of him cause coach didn't want to deal with him, and cause he didn't want the QB to have to deal with him.

 

I like Campbell, but I just think he may be in over his head.

 

Please don't get me started on Philbin. My fingers will bleed trying to explain everything wrong with his arrival and stay as Dolphins head coach. I never thought I could dislike a coach this much.


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I think there are too many names you could insert in this thread title:

Cameron
Sparano
Ireland
Ross
Philbin
Saban
Wannstedt

 

Totally disagree on two counts...1) It was Ireland that had control of personnel decisions when Marshall was traded and 2) Marshall had an untreated "mood disorder" (Borderline Personality Disorder) and was affecting the energy of the whole team, not to mention Domestic Violence.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...andon-marshall-punched-face-article-1.1040181

I did a piece on Marshall when he was traded how ineffective he actually was on the Dolphins. The more Miami targeted him the worse their record and the QBs were somewhere in the neighborhood of mid-90 QB rating when throwing to everyone else, but in the 70s when throwing to Marshall.

For example:

Miami's Win / Loss record when targeting Marshall 7 time or less = 5 wins / 3 losses.
Miami's Win / Loss record when targeting Marshall 8 or 9 times in the game = 4 wins / 6 losses.
Miami's Win / Loss record when targeting Marshall 10 or more times in the game = 3 wins / 9 losses.

Miami's overall Win / Loss record with Marshall playing = 12 wins / 18 losses.

Miami did the right thing getting rid him.

 

I'm sure Ireland got rid of the guys because Philbin didn't gel with them. Stupid move either way.

You could be right and it sounds crazy knowing how good of a player he is but maybe he just needed a change of scenery and to receive better treatment and develop as a person. Bummer. Sucks for us.


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Do a Search & Replace where you switch "Philbin" for "Ross" and you're on track.

Philbin only happened, and persisted, due to Ross.

 

Getting rid of Marshall was a smart move. He was causing problems during the games and during practice. Not sure if you've been around someone with a mood disorder. When they are not happy, they want everyone to know how unhappy they are and behave in ways that affect everyone around them.

If you watched Hard Knocks that year (Philbin was a rookie coach) it was clear Ireland was calling the shots on who stayed who left. In the Vontae Davis deal they showed him making the calls to the Colts and later informing Philbin about it. The conversation when something along the lines of Philbin asking him if he was going to do it and Ireland saying he thought so.

That was the reported reason Jeff Fisher took the Rams job over Miami b/c Fisher wanted control of personnel decisions.

 

Yeah, I'm willing to concede on that. Marshall probably just needed a change of scenery, better treatment and time to grow as a man.

I did but it's hard to remember that. I don't believe that Philbin urged that he needed any of the guys we let go.


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am I glad Fisher picked the Rams, I think we would be in worse shape with Fisher, because hed still be here

 

Hey, a first time disagreement. Getting rid of Marshall was an absolute asinine move and I always love the excuse that he had emotional problems or a mood disorder or whatever. Oh no, he threw a football in frustration. Ahh!! After every game this year, I've wanted to throw my TV or comp out the window. This team has a way of doing that to someone. He seems pretty well behaved now. I understand that complaining to your QB for more throws is far worse than, let's say....punching your wife in an elevator, etc, etc, etc ,etc, etc, etc......I'll take that talent along with that disorder all day!! Anyway.......

 

From what I remember we had "inside info" that Marshall was involved in some shenanigans at a night club and potentially could be suspended for multiple games and the trade happened a day or few days later. I don't think its a coincidence. And it went down similarly to the Bess trade where we had inside info that he was damaged goods and unloaded him and his troubles on another team. Basically, Ireland was a prick.

 

You guys are banging on Philbin for dumping Marshall and yeah that was pretty big. Far worse is him getting rid of not one, but TWO starting caliber Cornerbacks that we drafted and made up quite possibly the best young tandem of corners in the league.

That was truly Stupid. Grimes has been great but he is seemingly showing his age, AND there is still no-one opposite of him.

 

I feel like all this hate we have towards Ireland, Philbin, and Sparano...it's all misdirected anger....the man who's really at fault is Dumbo the owner...he's the one that hired these men, extended them, and/or took too long to fire them.

 

It's not misdirected.. they didn't do the jobs they were supposed to do well. That goes for Dumbo too.

 

I still scoff at the stupidity shown by jettisoning Marshall. Seriously, Philbonehead was an idiot.

 

There's more but I won't even bother. We all know who left and is doing better on other teams. Very sad.


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