Down 21 pts rivers leads the chargers to a 38-35 comeback against the 49ers.I was wondering to myself if tannehill is capable of bringing us like rivers did last night.I always feel if we are down by 2 scores into the third we are finished as I don't recall him ever leading us from behind by more than a td.
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Well we were down 10 to the Patriots and came back but 21 points rarely happens in the NFL. A high level of incompetence, luck, a special coaching staff and quarterback has to be in the mix.
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Tell rivers to do it behind our O-line and with the same amount of drops by our WR group
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Rivers did it on the road to boot. Some beautiful throws in the second half.
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River played great, but anyone that ignores his career has been up and down and he has had as many or more questions as tannehill are ignorant fans that are here to serve their bias not talk football. Rivers has choked in as many big games as he has won. Oh the fact that he has had 10 seasons doesnt matter either huh?
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To take the next step he needs to be more clutch and carry the team on his back when they are not playing well.So far in three years he has not done that.
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This is exactly what I've been trying to say for weeks now. There's a bunch of us who get labeled Tannehill lovers, when in reality all we're asking for is reasonable, rational discussion, not simply twisting facts to try to fit a profile or agenda someone has regarding Tannehill.
I'm glad a 10 year vet had a comeback, but what does that have to do with Tannehill or his development? Is it possible at all that our oline and receivers plays a part in the second half of games? When down by two or more scores, if your line can't block for more than two seconds against 3 to 4 man rushes, how are you supposed to advance the ball downfield against 7 to 8 defenders? -
Give Tannehill an average oline, and an actual #1 receiver, and a defense that doesn't fold, before you say he needs an "elite" team around him.
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I don't necessarily agree with the merits of this thread, but the Chargers OL has been worse than Miami's IMO.
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I was just stating I don't know if tannehill can do it.You don't know and I don't know because he hasn't but I hope he becomes that guy to be counted on in the 4th quarter right now he is not.
I watch the chargers almost every week because I had rivers for fantasy and trust me the chargers line is no better than the phins he is just better in the pocket than tannehill at this time. -
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I am just saying Rivers has failed more times than he succeeded, that his experiences may have helped him as he is doing things this year he hadn't been able before. But to point to last night and compare is unfair because it cherry picked points to argue rather than comparing whole arguments
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It it should be noted that Rivers didn't have his top receiver in the game last night. Keenan Allen was injured and that forced the Chargers to play a receiver who had no catches this season prior to last night.
I heard the announcers state that this receiver had 7 catches in last nights game.
The Chargers don't have any more talent than the Dolphins. That was clearly shown when they came to Miami and lost 37-O.
What at the Chargers do have is a better head coach, who was able to get his team to forget the loss to the Dolphins and start playing well enough to get back into the playoff race.
They also have Rivers. A QB who over his career has shown that he is able to make plays in the closing minutes of close games to lead his team to victory.
Tannehill has certainly shown improvement as an NFL QB over the past years, but when it comes to making plays in the 4th quarter of close games, he just hasn't shown a great deal of leadership in that area of his game.
Elite QB's consistently make plays in those close games to pull out a victory. Average to below average QB's seldom make those plays in the 4th quarter. Right now Tannehill is just an average QB in the NFL.
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Chargers Rivers led offense has beat both Harbaugh's on the road in 2 of his last 3 games is all that people are saying. Rivers has been very good for 10 years now. His OL and WR's are just as bad as ours. So, instead of us being labeled either Tannehill Lovers or Haters why can't we speak our opinions on how we can improve the team. We LOST at home to the Ravens while Chargers beat that same Ravens team in Baltimore...Where is the difference? FIRE PHILBIN & COYLE....I will be so mad if we win these last two games because I fear WEAK KNEES will keep CAUTIOUS JOE !! and tell him to Fire Coyle....what do we do when that does not help? Fire the Water boy and still keep Joe?
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rivers did it with a herniated disk that will probably require surgery in the off season lol
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I believe the Chargers were onto their FIFTH center of the season last night. He's a top quality quarterback. I'd take him over Tannehill in a heartbeat. And I believe in Tannehill... that he's the future... but still.
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Tannehill is not as good as Rivers. With that said, Rivers was a big reason why he even had to come back from multiple scores down as he threw 3 INTs (one pick 6).
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I've always loved Rivers, he's always reminded me of Marino in some ways.
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here is how I measure the talent of this year's team.
do I see Don Strock or Earl Morrall or do I see a Cleo Lemon and Daunte Culpepper out there I think I would say its more like Damon Huard and Chad Henne or in between .
This offensive line is offensive and DON Shula would have demoted most of these clowns to practice squad or third team .
I never thought I would ever say this but I miss Tim Ruddy , Mark Dixon , and Brent Smith .
runningbacks when I watch our runningbacks I don't see a Bernie Parmalee and Abdul Jabbar LET ALONE a Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown .
I would welcome any of these guys back and add Lousalka Polite to t and we are play off bound.
as for tightends I love these tight ends this is our strength .
as for wide receivers these guys make Chris Chambers and Wes Welker look like Paul Warfield and Nat Moore.
so that is my measurement on this year's team.
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