So Pat White takes Ronnie's spot? Ronnie takes Ricky's or Cobbs??

Interesting. I watch White every week...making folks miss is something I love....durability at the next level following the first few tackles is a concern.

Couldnt you do and accomplish the same thing with Tebow?? Atleast he has more meat on his bones.

 

tebow in the wildcat FTW.....

honestly we should draft him and have him play OLB :lol:

 

I can see him as a TE in the next level.

 

yeah all his blocking and catching skills shown off in college has made me think the same thing ............................


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Does that mean little Jayson Foster gets cut?

 

I was thinking the same thing watching the WVU game against Auburn. White may not be the most skilled passer, but he handles the ball well, is pretty fast and is a deceptive runner.

Wonder if he could be a late round pick up since he has no true position in most teams eyes.

 

Nah, draft him as a fullback and let him knock heads as a runner and blocker if a team can teach him how to block.

 

It doesn't take much for a QB to turn into a TE, they already know how the position is played and have a better concept of the offense. Its not that far fetched.

 

doesnt mean hes a nfl skilled blocker/reciever......if the dude has mediocre hands and ok blocking skills.....doesnt mean crap if he was a good qb in college....

john madden knows a hell've alot about football doesnt mean he can play outside linebacker for us....:up:

 

I think Tebow is going to still be a QB as a Pro, as I'm not convinced yet that a QB of his style is destined to be ineffective as a Pro.

I think between the success that the Falcons had early in Vick's career, before some of the WCO foolishness, and the success of the Wildcat, there's a place for that kind of player in the NFL.

I don't think Tebow is gonna be it, though. It's a tall order to find a coach confident and skilled enough to put together than kinda system, and spend the kinda resources Tebow would take to get.

 

Thats age discrimination right there.

 

IMO Tebow is going to be a QB in the pros .He has a great arm, a quality everyone seems to overlook .And he is accurate .

He wont be a Payton Manning type of QB . In fact you will not be able to compare him to anyone past or present .

His skill set is more appropiate to a run first type of offense .When defenses creep up to defend the run he will hit on those long strikes .

He is not the cerebral type but he will be succesful IMO.

Having said that I am not convinced he is coming out .

 

Regarding Pat White, do you think he'll declare for the draft or go the baseball route? He was drafted by the Reds, and we here in Cincinnati are certainly curious as to why...any thoughts?

 

Uh, foster is already cut.

He's a guy I was watching.

He ended up on the freakin' Stillers PS.

 

What round do you think they will go?

 

That didn't stop Matt Jones. Now, granted, it's taken Matt a bit longer to develop, and he developed a fancy for cocaine, but he's not having a terrible year. He wasn't worth a 1st, but that's a different argument :up:

 

What are the chances Tebow declares and runs a ridiculous 40 time for a guy his size and Al Davis falls in love with him and drafts him in the 1st round?

 

Its Al Davis...ANYTHING is possible

 

yeah, but Matt showed skills at the NFL Combine in his speed and hands drills (he didnt plan on playing QB in NFL)....so if Tebow or White go that route and shows the same thing then I suspect an organization or two would quickly lean toward them.

 

Ahhh, regarding White, since you mentioned him in WildCat, and part of the value or feature is running it with our base personnel when we break the huddle, etc, I wasnt sure where you had him lining up.

thanks

 

Tebo's pro potential is confusing at best in my opinion. Vince Young is the new template for that style of running/passing QB, and he's not doing so well these days. I get the feeling that he's going to go higher than expected, at least on this board. Maybe a team will take him with a low 1st to a mid 2nd. All it takes is one team to pull the trigger and take a shot.

When I watch him play, I see a pretty good arm- plus he has so many intangibles in spades. I'm thinking mid 2nd round.

 

Tebow has a good but not great arm and good but not great legs. He doesn't really do anything that stands out to you. I honestly dont see him as an NFL QB though I'm sure someone gives him a shot.

 

:up:

I agree with every statement you posted here.

 

Forgetting about the style of whole offense, Florida has a lot of wide open receivers...they rely a lot on angles and running away/semi picks from man coverages in the passing game and throw to spots against zones...because of that TEBOW very rarely has to make a throw into space and his timing is not the best and his arm is good not great...and the teams that have made him do those two things (throw on time and into smaller windows) have made him look pretty average. On top of that he has horrible footwork, his "tools" are very average as a throwing QB and he does a lot out of the shotgun....now if you are going to run a gimmick offense (do not know who would?) majority of the time, then Tebow warrants a look. Or if you want a guy that is a big time project that can help on St's and another position......he is definitely in my book a luxury pick.

This IMHO takes nothing away from the fact he is a hell of a good kid, agreat ambassador for college football and a hell of a college player..particularly as a running QB. Also IMHO he SHOULD come out...another year in Meyer's system will not help him prepare any more for the pro game and an extra year of learning and breaking bad habits is probably better for him in the long run.

 

Yeah, happens all the time... :shifty:



















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agreed on all counts, when i saw pat white play last week, it all fell into place, it looks like the wildcat has arrived and is here to stay, and is going to affect draft position of certain players.

Pat white has a wildcat talent that we dont, and thats the threat of the pass. Imagine white, brown and ricky runnin in that set. damn. fun to dream.

 

In terms of the wildcat, it would be nice to still have Jayson Foster around.

 

I did'nt know this.Being a Reds fan I'd rather see him in Reds outfit than a Dolphins one.I'm not sure how good a baseball player he is,just don't see him fitting in anywhere in our Offensive scheme.
The Wildcat is fun and all,but is it going to be a BIG part of our team next year? I felt it was only used to cover up our weaknesses on offense,and to have R&R on the field together more.
White's an elusive,athletic type of College baller.Two good hits in the NFL and he's on IR for the year IMHO.

 

Good point. My line of reasoning was that the Fins cut him loose before they decided on the wildcat. A linebacker came to mind this morning, Sean Lee from Penn State. Any thoughts on him, and do you know if he's coming out or was redshirted? Cheers.

 

Medical redshirt.

 

But Vick could dodge tackles, Tebow is going to be a tackling dummy. He has to change the way he plays completely.

 

Thats a great point. Vick could actually make defenders miss, where Tebow runs like a fullback. Sure he has good speed for a QB, but it's his power that makes him the runner he is. That isn't going to fly in the Pros.

 

Some of the comments remind me of the Jake Long will never make a good LT comments that were prevalent in this forum before the last draft :pointlol: