I wont make up any excuses for the kid, he ****ed up himself.... but the school completely neglected him.

 

Sounds like a half baked excuse to make an example of your star players. :shifty:

 

lol How is that even possible? What were his punishments for the first 9?

 

They would put his bowl high up in the tall cupboards. Just out of reach.

 

No Doritos for a week.

 

Deej, pumpkin.....you cannot defend this any longer...can you?

 

jesus, might as well waterboard the poor guy.

 

I'd of defended him if it was a few but 10 is nuts. Unless they told him to go ahead and smoke and don't worry about the tests then you really can't justify 10 lol

 

Damn it...he's so fu&$in talented...my gut tells me he was just a kid that caught up and tried to escape from the fame, so yeah, based in what I've seen this offseason and his contrition, I'd be the GM that took a shot on the kid..past is the past, clean slate, cue Eminem.." You only get one shot, do not miss this chance to show, this opportunity comes once in a lifetime"

For me, I usually don't risk on character concerns, but the kids talent and my gut says, I'll make the exception..

My strategy would be to sign Charles Woodson 2maro, and take the kid.

 

You're killing me Smalls.

 

Thing is, he is really not that talented. He's small and tight hipped. He's a liability in coverage on the perimeter, so at best, you are making an exception for a guy who is nothing more than a slot corner/special teams player in the NFL.

 

In djs defense, we have done it before with Jimmy W. That said, he turned out to be innocent and the past is in the past. If the Badger drops far enough, I would take a flyer too. 4th round definitely.

 

jimmy wilson was acquitted for self defense. Different situation IMO.

 

Mathieu in Miami would be like sending an alcoholic to a bar. Even if he was as talented as DJ thinks, Miami is not the best place for him. It is like when Jimmy Johnson mentioned that the reason he didn't draft Ray Lewis was because he felt that Ray needed to get out of Miami and away from the people he was hanging with in Miami.

 

Would Ricky Williams be a more apt comparison? Silly legislation imo.

 

Ricky was a flake, but Ricky was also just a recreational user. There are legitimate questions as to whether Mathieu is a dealer along with being a user.

 

I had speculated in an earlier thread that there had to have been at least three previous failures before the school acted. Based on my experience with SEC schools and how important football is there my personal opinion was that there had been far more failures than that. This quote from him confirms that. And even then they only acted b/c he failed an NCAA test. This guy has not shown any tendency to change his behavior beyond a few words which I would almost guarantee are the same ones he said after several of the previous failures. The idea that this guy will come into the NFL and suddenly change his ways is a greater fantasy than anything Disney has ever put out.

 

Why not just bring up Devone Bess. Neither of them had the chances that Honey Toker had.


Cmon. I'm saying...5 or 6 would be a RIDICULOUS number, but stopped counting at 10? Seriously??????

 

Bottom line. It IS against the law in the State of Louisiana. Regardless of your views on it (I'm not against it, I don't do it, but I also don't think it should be illegal) is completely a non-sequitor. He was breaking the freaking law at least 10 times. That in itself is a huge issue IMHO

 

I never liked this stance. It is very easy to break the law.

 

The same exact law over 10 times? I don't agree with that. That is not "Easy", that is very very intentional.

 

Well, if it is against the law, they warn him the first couple of times, then start strickter punishment, then yes, yes you should.

I also think it's a silly law, but regardless of what you, I or the Honey Toker think, it is indeed a law that he repeatedly and blatantly broke. I have a very tough time looking past that. I would feel the same way about a kid that wasn't 21 and was repeatedly busted for Public Intoxication (Which is a much better analogy than gargling).

 

I think it's silly legislation also. But, if you are using when you know 1) it can get you kicked out of college 2) it can cost you your future earning tons of money. Then I have to question at least the individuals intelligence.

 

Pretty sure in New Orleans for a woman to drive they have to have their husband walking out in front of the vehicle waving some flags as a warning.

 

Looks like you and seemingly everyone else are far apart from myself as to how unique I think the skillset is..

Not a perimeter corner, to engage this skillset, (unreal footwork in traffic/elite instincts/ball skills), he needs to be facing all the action..he's a safety, and I believe he is the next Palumalu..

 

I jaywalked twice today. I easily have broken that law 10 times this month.

 

In Auburn, WA it is against the law to have sex with a virgin. Even if you are married to her.

In Seattle, it is a six month jail sentence if a woman sits on your lap on a train without a pillow in between.

 

Yeah, I get it. You are going to throw every stupid ****ing law you can find against me. Keep going. Is that all you have? Honestly, I expected better from you. I honestly did.

 

That is all I need for the, "He broke the law," argument, which I have been against since I was your age. It is a terrible argument. Too many laws are easy to break.

I also think the marajuana law is as stupid as jaywalking.

 

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The newspaper reported that Mathieu told at least one NFL team he failed so many drug tests in college that he couldn't even remember them all.

An assistant coach for one team told the newspaper that when that team interviewed Mathieu, he was asked how many drug tests he failed in college.

"I quit counting at 10," Mathieu answered. "I really don't know."

Mathieu contacted LSU on Friday, saying the story does not accurately reflect the discussions that he has had while on visits to various NFL teams.

"It is irresponsible and shows a lack of integrity for anyone to disclose medical information regardless of how it was gathered," Mathieu said. "I would expect that conversations regarding my drug testing history during the course of my medical treatment would be private. LSU has a strong drug testing program and LSU went to great lengths to help me in my treatment and recovery. I understand that many people enjoy reading about the negative side of sports, but to publish those second-hand comments without being given a chance to address that comment prior to the publication of the article is irresponsible."

The assistant told the newspaper that Mathieu's statement had him pointing his finger at LSU as much as the player.

Mathieu, who has declared he's been clean since October, enjoyed a strong performance at the NFL scouting combine in February and remains an intriguing draft prospect.

At LSU's pro day in March, Mathieu also carried himself in a professional manner, mindful that NFL scouts, coaches and front-office personnel in attendance are all well-versed in his history and are particularly mindful of how he presents himself.

"I think they know everything already [about my background]," Mathieu said at pro day. "I think they just want you to be honest with them. That was my best friend, coming into this offseason and going into this draft was, just be honest, and open."

Mathieu has been projected as a second or third-round draft pick by many draft experts. ESPN's Mel Kiper has Mathieu being picked by the New England Patriots in the second round."

 

That is the thing that bothers me the most.