We are very solid at WR !

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FAfastball83forum_veteranOP
Apr 28, 2013, 07:33 AM

I know many dolfan would have picked Swope or Patton but I really think our FO really like our WR depht chart and we will not add another WR before the season start.

We have :

Wallace : vertical outside speedy route runner .........a top WR
Hartline : Solid n° 2 and can play the slot
Gibson : could be a very good surprise and will be solid if not more
Matthews : our new moving chain WR, very good hand and bold WR
Binns : with one year in our system he will become our Tall WR target in Red Zone at 6.3 210lbs.

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sorry if my english isn't very good but I am french finfan

JIjim1New Member
Apr 28, 2013, 07:36 AM

We should have drafted at least one WR in the draft. Our receiving corps is now closer to average than downright awful-watch Markus Wheaton light it up for the Steelers replacing Mike Wallace. They know how to draft.

GMJohnsonGMJohnsonNew Member
Apr 28, 2013, 07:42 AM

"jim1 wrote:

We should have drafted at least one WR in the draft. Our receiving corps is now closer to average than downright awful-watch Markus Wheaton light it up for the Steelers replacing Mike Wallace. They know how to draft.

Don't forget Keller. He could easily lead the team in receptions this year.

Unlucky 13Unlucky 13subscriber
Apr 28, 2013, 08:05 AM

I think that we've gone from among the worst, to about average. One very good player in Wallace, a very solid #2 in hartline, and a good #3 in Gibson. Everyone else is almost competely unproven though. I really wanted to see the team pick up a guy in the third round like Stedman Bailey. With Keller though, he may essentially be our #4 WR, which is great, unless someone misses time with injury. Then we could be in trouble.

mlb1399mlb1399forum_veteran
Apr 28, 2013, 08:24 AM

I think we now have have the best receiving corps in our division and have a good WR corps. Brian Hartline was 16th in the NFL in receiving yards while being the #1 WR with a supporting cast of WR's who quite frankly, were garbage. I think Hartline will be one of the best #2 WR in the NFL. You add Wallace who can attack downfield and is a playmaker who forces defenses to game plan around him.

Outside of White/Jones, Maclin/Jackson, Bryant/Austin and Thomas/Decker, I don't know if there's a tandem that I would rather have than Hartline/Wallace. When's the last time we had a legit #1 WR and a legit #2 WR?

Gibson is a bigger and faster than Bess. Keller, if healthy, is going to create a lot of scoring opportunities in the red zone and is faster and better playmaker than Fasano.

This could be our best bunch of playmakers in well over a decade.

LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Apr 28, 2013, 08:40 AM

"fastball83 wrote:

I know many dolfan would have picked Swope or Patton but I really think our FO really like our WR depht chart and we will not add another WR before the season start.

We have :

Wallace : vertical outside speedy route runner .........a top WR
Hartline : Solid n° 2 and can play the slot
Gibson : could be a very good surprise and will be solid if not more
Matthews : our new moving chain WR, very good hand and bold WR
Binns : with one year in our system he will become our Tall WR target in Red Zone at 6.3 210lbs.

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I agree, and you can add Keller, Clay, Egnew and Sims to that list. Just exchanging Fasano for Keller is a significant upgrade in the receiver category...

Alex13Alex13subscriber
Apr 28, 2013, 08:45 AM

so one thread in FH and the same one here, which replies do you like better ?

Ronnie BassRonnie Bassluxury_box
Apr 28, 2013, 08:49 AM

Rishard Matthews is going to step up this year, I feel strongly about this and I think the Miami brass do as well, hence the reason we didn't touch a receiver in the draft

huskerfinhuskerfinNew Member
Apr 28, 2013, 08:50 AM

Like it alot more then last season. Only fear is if Wallace would get banged up for a couple/few games, then it goes back to looking alot like last year in my mind.

Like the guys that were drafted for the most part, but kind of wish they would have drafted a speed wr in the 3rd or 4th round. Maybe they will get a surprise in the UDFAs again.

SAsandcastleforum_veteran
Apr 28, 2013, 09:02 AM

The Dolphins WR bring different, complimentary skills, which hopefully leads to a high productivity from the unit. Hartline and Gibson are very good intermediate sideline receivers; leading to lots of 1st downs from the hashes. This should room for Wallace and Miller to take advantage of. Keller is very good at getting open immediately after releasing and should be turning up field with the ball to find the CB has vacated his spot to run with Wallace.

I think I recall that Philbin saying wanted a bigger WR in the slot, which provides an opportunity for someone to emerge from the Matthews, Binns, and Fuller group. Thigpen might surprise. A key aspect to watch is if any develop the trust to keep up critical 3rd downs and gain playing time in the red zone offense.

shourightshourightNew Member
Apr 28, 2013, 09:29 AM

"Ronnie Bass wrote:

Rishard Matthews is going to step up this year, I feel strongly about this and I think the Miami brass do as well, hence the reason we didn't touch a receiver in the draft

I think Rishard Matthews made Davone Bess expendable, in fact.

And don't forget Marcus Thigpen in the slot and as a "Danny Woodhead" type player.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Apr 28, 2013, 10:01 AM

"shouright wrote:

I think Rishard Matthews made Davone Bess expendable, in fact.

And don't forget Marcus Thigpen in the slot and as a "Danny Woodhead" type player.

My theory is they felt it would be better to run with the backup guys from 2012 and add Wallace and Gibson then it would be to draft rooks and hope they assimilated a very complex offensive scheme in time to do much in 2013.

INOW:

Guys they did not like:
-Reggie Bush
-Devone Bess
-Anthony Fasano

Were replaced with guys they did like
-Lamar Miller
-Brandon Gibson
-Mike Wallace
-Dustin Keller

Battle is for the #4 Wr slot, between Matthews and Binn, with Matthews having more physical talent but Binns having done more in the league.

Thigpen is someone they must like on some level as even the UDFA class does not feature any natural replacements for him, now it is up to him to show what he can do as a RB/Slot WR/Returner.

Personally I think he can be Leon Washington for us, a 2,000 all purpose yards player.

FameFameforum_veteran
Apr 28, 2013, 10:03 AM

I, for one, am excited about the fact that the organization feels so good about our currently rostered younger talent at receiver that they didn't bother to add a single WR in the draft. That excites me more than drafting something new and shiny.

ITItsdahumidityforum_veteran
Apr 28, 2013, 10:09 AM

speed kills and if, for whatever reason, Wallace is not on the field, who is going to stretch the field?

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CrunchTimeCrunchTimeretired_admin
Apr 28, 2013, 10:37 AM

Dont forget any pickups we may get from UDFA.Remember thats how we got Bess.Here is one candidate.

Dolphins signed Mount Union WR Jasper Collins.


Collins (5-foot-10 1/4, 180) is the latest in a line of D-III Mount Union receivers to enter the NFL, following Pierre Garcon and Cecil Shorts. Collins caught 92 passes for 1,694 yards (18.4 YPR) and 22 TDs as a senior and ran forty times of 4.47 and 4.50 at his Pro Day, with a 1.56 ten-yard split. Collins needs to get stronger, but has a chance to develop into an explosive slot receiver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N6RLwrAlb0Q

NolePhin15NolePhin15New Member
Apr 28, 2013, 10:38 AM

"Itsdahumidity wrote:

speed kills and if, for whatever reason, Wallace is not on the field, who is going to stretch the field?

Didn't we just sign that WR who ran a 4.19?

padre31padre31luxury_box
Apr 28, 2013, 10:40 AM

"Itsdahumidity wrote:

speed kills and if, for whatever reason, Wallace is not on the field, who is going to stretch the field?

Matthews, and Hartline, Rishard has 4.4 speed and Hartline has shown the talent to get deep.

Keller can also get down the seam, so can Thigpen

17isOurSavior17isOurSaviorNew Member
Apr 28, 2013, 10:41 AM

Wallace/Hartline/Keller/Gibson/Sims/Matthews. I think that's a very good receiving core and a huge upgrade over what we had last year.

CrunchTimeCrunchTimeretired_admin
Apr 28, 2013, 10:45 AM

"NolePhin15 wrote:

Didn't we just sign that WR who ran a 4.19?

Terrell Sinkfield, WR, Northern Iowa .He is fast but we have seen fast WRs before with questionable football talent.Perhaps he would be a candidate for return duty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWVz9FVIGbE

Claymore95Claymore95subscriber
Apr 28, 2013, 10:53 AM

I like Matthews' upside, and I'm glad he's going to get more of a chance than he would have if we'd drafted someone else, but I still would have liked to add one more WR like Bailey.

DolfanTomDolfanTomNew Member
Apr 28, 2013, 11:35 AM

"Ronnie Bass wrote:

Rishard Matthews is going to step up this year, I feel strongly about this and I think the Miami brass do as well, hence the reason we didn't touch a receiver in the draft

I think Matthews is going to turn some heads this year, and could - eventually - be the #2 WR on this team behind Wallace. He's got that potential anyways. He caught nearly everything thrown his way in limited action last year, and looked good doing it.

He's the guy a lot of people are forgetting about when thinking about our WR corp. We shouldn't sleep on this kid!

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DolfanTomDolfanTomNew Member
Apr 28, 2013, 11:36 AM

"CrunchTime wrote:

Terrell Sinkfield, WR, Northern Iowa .He is fast but we have seen fast WRs before with questionable football talent.Perhaps he would be a candidate for return duty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWVz9FVIGbE

Good lord, somebody put this guy back on KO's. He'll, put him and Thigpen back there!

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DolfanTomDolfanTomNew Member
Apr 28, 2013, 11:38 AM

One other thing that keeps me confident in who we have, and that's Philbin. He knows what a quality, top-notch, deep WR-corp looks like, and I gotta believe if he didn't think we had the makings of one right now, w/ the guys we have, and who we've brought in in UDFA, you would've seen us be more aggressive in getting one early in the draft. Have to be patient and let this play out.

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ExplosionsInDaSkyExplosionsInDaSkyforum_veteran
Apr 28, 2013, 12:09 PM

Matthews has been forgotten in all of this. I thought he showed some good things towards the end of last season. I'm not going to say he can come from outta nowhere and do what Victor Cruz did but I think he will eventually be out no.3 wideout. I agree that he made Davone Bess expendable. I like Brandon Gibson too as a surprise player for us, but Matthews is the one I am really pulling for to improve.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Apr 28, 2013, 12:15 PM

"DolfanTom wrote:

One other thing that keeps me confident in who we have, and that's Philbin. He knows what a quality, top-notch, deep WR-corp looks like, and I gotta believe if he didn't think we had the makings of one right now, w/ the guys we have, and who we've brought in in UDFA, you would've seen us be more aggressive in getting one early in the draft. Have to be patient and let this play out.

Well, to me, we will have a better idea of what is what when the padless practices happen.

Granted, many a guy w/o pads has shined then vanished, however it does give one a feel for who has the raw goods at least, and keep in mind our Top 3 slots are filled with guys who have proven themselves in the league.

Now we are down to slot #4 and #5 and part time roles.

Compared to Nannee/Hartline/Bess at this time last yr, yeah, we are way ahead of the curve.

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