Who do you want to win this week?

The Jets finally got out of their own way and switched QB’s.

I hope the Patriots don’t figure this out also.

"Pennington's Limp Arm wrote:

The Jets finally got out of their own way and switched QB’s.

I hope the Patriots don’t figure this out also.

I'm not sure switching to White is going to be much of an improvement. And when Zappe came in, he looked good for one game but then fell apart.

The Jets don’t have a good qb on their roster

"KeyFin wrote:

For this season, yes, the Jets are a bigger threat than the Pats since they beat us without Tua. So we certainly want them to lose whenever possible to keep them out of the AFC East race. I do believe that we'll destroy them in our 2nd game though.

The Bills are still clearly enemy #1 and we can't count the Pats out; the division is super tight this year and it's honestly great to see. Any of the 4 teams can take the division and we'll have to earn our way in, even though we're tied for the best record in the AFC. I'm expecting it to be us....but obviously I'm biased and wearing aqua-colored glasses.

Any other year though, I root for the Jets because they're just that darn pathetic and we're hoping they beat a better AFC team down the stretch. It's no fun to hate them anymore. So I'm actually really happy that I get to hate them and root against them this season, LOL.

You made a prediction before the season even started about our offense. I believe we had a short conversation about it with me having a glass half empty type of take on it. My worry was that we would have yet another sputtering, mediocre offense despite the Hill addition and that the sky would eventually fall. Your take/prediction was way more accurate and thankfully so. I value your opinion on here more than most, and I am actually starting to see us doing this as well. In other words, I can't disagree with this at this point. I too think we can pull this off. I think this team can get to the Super Bowl IF the defense can find some consistency and the O Line can stay intact. That and of course Tua staying healthy, but that goes hand in hand with the O line staying in shape.

"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:

You made a prediction before the season even started about our offense. I believe we had a short conversation about it with me having a glass half empty type of take on it. My worry was that we would have yet another sputtering, mediocre offense despite the Hill addition and that the sky would eventually fall. Your take/prediction was way more accurate and thankfully so. I value your opinion on here more than most, and I am actually starting to see us doing this as well. In other words, I can't disagree with this at this point. I too think we can pull this off. I think this team can get to the Super Bowl IF the defense can find some consistency and the O Line can stay intact. That and of course Tua staying healthy, but that goes hand in hand with the O line staying in shape.

The beautiful thing is that if we can get Jones back in the next 2-4 weeks, it's possible we return to an elite defense by the playoffs and would likely be the best team in the league. That might be wishful thinking at this point, but man...I see the potential for this squad to be truly special the next 3-5 years.

I am still super high on this offense though and now that we're starting to find the run game, we're starting to be truly scary. Besides Mahommes and Allen, maybe Burrow, there's not many in this league that can pace us in a shootout. We're just that dominant.

Does anyone know what the issue with Jones is?
Just seems very secret squirrel, which bothers me a little.

"Pauly wrote:

Does anyone know what the issue with Jones is?
Just seems very secret squirrel, which bothers me a little.

The team is always hush hush about injuries, but it seems to be extra with Byron.

In late 2019, when he was still with Dallas, he hurt his ankle during practice and it ended his season. It lingered into the offseason, and was a question when Miami signed him to the big money deal. Issues with that same leg effected his practice time during the 2020 preseason and camp, several games in 2020, and then lingered during the 2021 season even though he didn't miss games. Then he had surgery several months into the 2022 offseason, and there's been no official word since then.

But long story short, he hasn't been fully healthy in nearly three years, and it seems like this same original injury is the root cause of all of it, even as he's fought though it and tried to play in 2020 and 21.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

The team is always hush hush about injuries, but it seems to be extra with Byron.

In late 2019, when he was still with Dallas, he hurt his ankle during practice and it ended his season. It lingered into the offseason, and was a question when Miami signed him to the big money deal. Issues with that same leg effected his practice time during the 2020 preseason and camp, several games in 2020, and then lingered during the 2021 season even though he didn't miss games. Then he had surgery several months into the 2022 offseason, and there's been no official word since then.

But long story short, he hasn't been fully healthy in nearly three years, and it seems like this same original injury is the root cause of all of it, even as he's fought though it and tried to play in 2020 and 21.

The secret squirrel business kind of reminds me of an incident with a rugby team I follow. One of their stars, as in GOAT at his position star, had a minor operation but he kept being put on the not ready yet list for far longer than usual. What had happened was their was s complication with the anesthetic, so the anesthetist applied the usual counter measure - a steroid on the banned PED list. So the club kept him off their active roster until the PED had passed through his system. The governing body complained that they hadn't been informed because they totally would have brought him in for a ‘random’ sample.

Anyways, no matter what Byron’s situation is it’s the secrecy is what is starting to trouble me.

"Pauly wrote:

The secret squirrel business kind of reminds me of an incident with a rugby team I follow. One of their stars, as in GOAT at his position star, had a minor operation but he kept being put on the not ready yet list for far longer than usual. What had happened was their was s complication with the anesthetic, so the anesthetist applied the usual counter measure - a steroid on the banned PED list. So the club kept him off their active roster until the PED had passed through his system. The governing body complained that they hadn't been informed because they totally would have brought him in for a ‘random’ sample.

Anyways, no matter what Byron’s situation is it’s the secrecy is what is starting to trouble me.

At this point, I think he's played his final game with the Fins last season.

"Unlucky 13 wrote:

At this point, I think he's played his final game with the Fins last season.

Agreed. There’s not much time at this point for him to get into game shape to be of much use to the team. Coach is probably tired of answering questions about him and his availability. Just put him on IR already.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

I'm not sure switching to White is going to be much of an improvement. And when Zappe came in, he looked good for one game but then fell apart.

Yeah, that isn't true. White is very good and the team rallies around him. Zappe also threw 2 TD's in the game you claim he fell apart in.

"Fishhead wrote:

The Jets don’t have a good qb on their roster

White

"KeyFin wrote:

The beautiful thing is that if we can get Jones back in the next 2-4 weeks, it's possible we return to an elite defense by the playoffs and would likely be the best team in the league. That might be wishful thinking at this point, but man...I see the potential for this squad to be truly special the next 3-5 years.

I am still super high on this offense though and now that we're starting to find the run game, we're starting to be truly scary. Besides Mahommes and Allen, maybe Burrow, there's not many in this league that can pace us in a shootout. We're just that dominant.

Those are 3 QB's we will play in the playoffs.

"dolphin25 wrote:

Those are 3 QB's we will play in the playoffs.

Worry about winning in the playoffs when we get there. Winning on the road in the post season is going to be monumentally difficult.

"dolphin25 wrote:

Yeah, that isn't true. White is very good and the team rallies around him. Zappe also threw 2 TD's in the game you claim he fell apart in.

White may or may not be good, but one game against Chicago's defense isn't going to prove it.
And Zappe also threw a bunch of INTs.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

White may or may not be good, but one game against Chicago's defense isn't going to prove it.
And Zappe also threw a bunch of INTs.

Zappe has 5 TD's and 3 INT's for the year,,, one of those INT was in the WR's hands and bounced out to the defender for the INT. He completes over 70% of his passes and has a QB rating over 100.... if you think that is not good, not sure what to say.

White has shown the players around him love him. The total attitude of the offense changes when he is playing. He has thrown more interceptions, but one game he played was after he hurt forearm and could not grip the ball. He did throw for over 400 yards against the Bengals last year. I'd much rather play the Jets without him.

"dolphin25 wrote:

Zappe has 5 TD's and 3 INT's for the year,,, one of those INT was in the WR's hands and bounced out to the defender for the INT. He completes over 70% of his passes and has a QB rating over 100.... if you think that is not good, not sure what to say.

White has shown the players around him love him. The total attitude of the offense changes when he is playing. He has thrown more interceptions, but one game he played was after he hurt forearm and could not grip the ball. He did throw for over 400 yards against the Bengals last year. I'd much rather play the Jets without him.

You like to make more excuses for other teams and players than you do Miami.

"dolphin25 wrote:

Zappe has 5 TD's and 3 INT's for the year,,, one of those INT was in the WR's hands and bounced out to the defender for the INT. He completes over 70% of his passes and has a QB rating over 100.... if you think that is not good, not sure what to say.

Then don't say anything. If Zappe was that good, he'd be starting instead of Mac Jones.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

Then don't say anything. If Zappe was that good, he'd be starting instead of Mac Jones.

LOL, not true, but you believe what you want. Do you think Tua is bad? I really hope you do.

"TheHighExhaulted wrote:

You like to make more excuses for other teams and players than you do Miami.

show me where i've said anything negative about a Miami player this year. I'll be waiting .

"dolphin25 wrote:

LOL, not true, but you believe what you want. Do you think Tua is bad? I really hope you do.

You're sounding pretty incoherent. I have no idea what your game is or what point you're trying to make, but it isn't coming across.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

You're sounding pretty incoherent. I have no idea what your game is or what point you're trying to make, but it isn't coming across.

It does not surprise me you can't comprehend. My point is you can't see talent at QB, so if you think Tua is bad he is likely good.

"dolphin25 wrote:

It does not surprise me you can't comprehend. My point is you can't see talent at QB, so if you think Tua is bad he is likely good.

Yeah, still sounding pretty incoherent. Perhaps if you tried saying something logical and reasonable, people could understand you better.