Its because Tanny gets rid of it so fast. So when he can't, he's sacked.

 

"Giving up a sack is like death"

Speedbump Clabo

hmm, to quote Billy:

"The brave but one death, cowards die a thousand deaths"

To be blunt, ****o is 8 n 5, 8 sacks in 5 games, ***** needs to man the **** up and earn his check

/Nuff said

 

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Quarterback hits imply the line actually blocks a little bit and gives the Quarterback some time in the pocket.

 

You sure told him.

 

Sounds to me like Tyson Clabo is pointing fingers.

 

It sure sounds as if he's saying Tannehill doesn't get rid of the ball fast enough.

 

I'm perplex as too how someone stole all the sand outta his bucket in one offseason.

 

All the more reason to sit his bum ***

 

Bingo

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Let's be honest, Tannehill definitely shares the blame. How many times have you seen him throw away the ball when there's no play?

 

How many times has he had the opportunity to throw the ball away, period?
CK has gone to great lengths to show he's not holding on to the ball too long, in fact, quite the opposite.

 

I agree, it sounds as though he's saying RT holds the ball too long...which isn't exactly untrue all the time. Him and Brandon Weeden both do it and it drives me crazy..I'm not comparing Tannehill to Weeded it's just that I watch basically a ton of Browns games as well.
I'd like to see Tannehill get rid of the ball quicker, thats for sure...Phillip Rivers probably my favorite QB in the game has a really quick release with the ball.

 

Seriously, **** this guy

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It's not really the kind of comment Clabo should be making, but there is truth to it.

 

I don't know the stats, but I don't think our line has very many holding penalties either right? That maybe another issue, trade 4 or 5 of those sacks for holding calls and we don't look "as" bad in the sack category lol

 

The tendency of Ryan Tannehill and Brandon Weeden to hold the ball is like apples and mayonnaise as far as comparability.

Not even close to one another.

 

There's really no truth to what Tyson Clabo is saying.

Pro Football Focus keeps data on hits on the quarterback. If you add up sacks and hits, Miami's offensive line (not counting RBs and TEs) is 3rd-worst in the NFL at 31 hits allowed on the quarterback.

So even if every single one of those 19 sacks attributed to the offensive line were converted into just hits on the quarterback, Miami's line is allowing the 3rd-most in the NFL.

So Tyson Clabo really just needs to STFU.

Note: That doesn't account for number of passing plays, either. If you calculate hits per passing play, the Dolphins offensive line (again, not counting tight ends and backs) has allowed THE MOST hits per passing play. So STFU Tyson Clabo. Do your job better.

 

Here we go again....Ryan Tannehill is not perfect...If there is one thing I can complain about it's him holding onto the ball for too long. Brandon Weeded does the same thing except worse...I wasn't comparing the two QB's overall...I was comparing that specific "tendency" read my post. Jesus Christ man! All I said is that he holds the ball for too long SOMETIMES, I didn't say he was a crappy QB. You can stroke Ryan Tannehill all you want, but he is...Every now and then guilty of holding onto the ball too long which in turns seems to be creating a mild case of brief dementia in the pocket, where upon he gets sacked for a big loss (or worse). This...in my opinion leads to the assumption that Tyson Clabo is making in his statement which holds weight to it, whether you agree with that or not.
I'm sure Tannehill will eventually improve upon this and figure it out. It's only his second year, I do apologize as I didn't mean to offend you by commenting on a flaw that the almighty Ryan Tannehill clearly has at the moment....

Let me also say that I agree with 100% about this problem (sacks) being the fault of the Offensive line. Clabo has been dreadful, and I agree with you that he needs to shut up and play football too. I just disagree on this being 100% on the O-line. I've seen first hand Ryan Tannehill get flustered and lose his cool in the pocket a time or two...Again that could be because the line isn't giving him enough time...Just my opinion. I have complete faith in RT as our guy, and I honestly think he's going to be a top flight QB once he fixes and fine tunes a few more things. I am fully on board with him.

 

You specifically compared two players that are on complete opposite sides of the spectrum as far as holding the football too long. I merely pointed it out.

I'm not stroking Ryan Tannehill at all. You want me to point out flaws, I can be here all day.

I'm merely dispelling a perception that lacks evidence of any kind. Simple fact, Ryan Tannehill does not hold onto the ball too long. His percentage of snaps where he holds the ball longer than 2.5 seconds is 2nd-lowest in the league. His average release time is the 2nd-fastest in the league.

These are just facts.

Your criticism is off base. That doesn't mean all criticisms of Tannehill are off base. Just this one.

 

Do you know what the sack % is for when he holds the ball past the average 2.5 seconds?

Could it be that our offensive line does a fair job at the initial pass-rush and then kind of gives up on the second effort, and that's why our pressure to sack ratio is so high?

 

Let me see... If a defensive player comes in unblocked and smears your QB all over the turf, is that a QB hit or a sack? Does it make any difference?

STFU, Clabo. Sit down.

 

What Clabo is saying is absolutely true, and the distinction you're making is misleading.

Differentiating between sacks and hits isn't valuable in this context. They both represent offensive line failures, the difference between them has nothing to do with how often those failures occur.

Tannehill is being pressured on 33.8% of snaps. There are 20 quarterbacks in the NFL right now getting pressured at a higher rate per PFF. The amount of pressures(blocking failures) are not particularly noteworthy, it's the amount that are resulting in negative consequences.

 

Which is the big mystery that can't seem to be demystified.

 

And what people have been trying to make you understand for a while now, is that pressure numbers are not higher because of Tannehill getting rid of the ball quicker. If his amounts of snap holding the ball longer and his average release time, was just merely league average, you can pretty much guarantee those pressure numbers would climb exponentially.

Just the fact that about 95% of the league holds the ball longer than Tannehill means that a lot of the would be pressure is never materializing thanks to him.

 

That's a collection of ideas people find favorable that I don't think really stands up. Tannehill gets rid of the ball relatively quickly, but there's a huge difference between that(which is fundamentally a part of this offense). He's not forcing the ball out to hot reads, in fact, I'd go so far as to say that's something that rarely in practice happens. The idea that the offense is performing pretty well only by the grace of Tannehill is very much a self-serving idea.

 

Your point wasn't about offensive efficiency, but about the total pressure to sacks discrepancy. Fact of the matter is, a lot of would be pressure is not happening because the ball is out quickly. Be it my offensive scheme, or QB skill, or a mixture of both.
What happens or doesn't, after the ball is released is another separate discussion.

 

Well.We are very perplexed too.We thought we were buying a road grader but we got a turnstile instead.:pity:

 

It could just as plausibly mean he gets rid of the ball too fast.

Either way, its a pretty bad thing to say on Clabo's part. To the degree where I would consider benching him if I were the coach.

 

That's a pretty ridiculous thing to say on Clabo's part. He's been bad. I don't care what the percentage of QB hits says. The film does lie. You can see the guy getting destroyed in pass pro over and over again. I'm sure he's frustrated because he's been a good RT his entire career and is now struggling, but he should not be pointing fingers and needs to look in the mirror (or at least at the game film).

 

I think the theory here is that plays aren't being made while under pressure. Its either get the ball out before pressure, or take a sack.

 

Clabo is confused? whats so confusing about learning how to block?

 

I seem to remember a stat where Tannehill ranked very favorable in passing under pressure.

If you're saying Tannehill needs to improve in reading pre-snap, anticipating the rush, and eluding the rush, I think that is a fair task to ask of him. However, we must also acknowledge that he does not have the time, nor does he have the room to maneuver back there on a consistent basis, and that falls on the protection.

It is fair to ask improvement and growth of Tannehill, but there are others who need to improve more, others who should be more the target of our criticism, and of whom we should be demanding more.