http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...-shocked-after-getting-dion-jordan-half-price
Nice.
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Here's Philbins take on the pick , seems pretty happy!xphinfanx likes this. -
Other thing is, we now have great Lb depth, Misi can play all 3 lb positions and De, Vernon can play Sam and DE, toss Jordan into the mix and we went from mediocre to very young and very fast.
Then again, could easily see Misi being traded for cheap as he is in his last yr and is a good, not great player who can play in the 3-4 or 4-3.xphinfanx likes this. -
Going by a more updated value chart, the trade was essentially even. But all things considered, when you can trade up for your guy and get even value for what you give up, thats a big win in the NFL.
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From what I heard Dion really expected to be in Philadelphia to play for Chip again hence his vague reaction but he will learn quickly Miami is a much better city and fit for him anyways.
I don't blame him cause he probably likes Chip a lot but hey, he will move on.
The Eagles are furious at us. Let's just say we aren't going to be doing any deals with the Eagles any time soon. :lol: -
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Do you have a link to an updated chart or is it something you have come up with yourself? The old one needed to be chucked in the bin, it was usually far too costly to move up. -
I wish trade charts would just die. Too many factors in a trade of picks.
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Then there is this when the Vikings wanted back in the 1st round and traded with the Pats
I really cannot remember anyone trading up into the top 5 and only have to give a second rounder. I know a #12 pick is still pretty high but..... -
the raiders were taking hayden no matter what, so they did good to move down, and they pretty much did us a favor to let us move up for what they did. Pretty awesome.
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That one is much better IMO.Springveldt likes this. -
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It used to be that defense won championships. With all the rule changes which have mostly benefited the offenses in the NFL, having a great offense and an average to good defense is enough to win a SB now. -
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Dolphins got their guy without trading to much to get him, Raiders got their guy with getting an extra pick in the 2nd, so I say its a win-win, but I do like the Trade on the Dolphins side
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Trading down, getting a high pick in that trade, and still getting your target is laudable, particularly when the player can be among the top at what happens to be a core position. -
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I wonder if what Ireland originally offered was the #12 and #54 selection to see if it was possible. Still getting him for the 12 and 42 is awesome. The trade benefited the raiders from the standpoint that they still acquired their most coveted player, and were able to recoup a 2nd round pick. Overall I think the trade worked out extremely well for both teams. Gotta wonder what # Jordan is going to wear being that big Pat wears #96.
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Strange how those high scoring Patriots did in the AFC champ game vs Balt (scoring just 13 points), should've lost to Balt in the 2011 AFC Champ game and couldn't handle the Giants D in the SB (17 pts), nor the Ravens D in 2009 playoffs (14 pts), the Jets D in 2010 playoffs (21 pts, most in come from behind), and the Giants D in the 2007 SB (14 pts). The average N.E. score from those 5 post season losses: 15.8 points, and this was the NFL's #1 scoring offense during that span at 32.6 pts/g and the only team averaging > 30 pts.
Sure, the Patriots can beat up on average & poor defenses throughout the year to make the post season, but in the end, the best QB in the game and the NFL's most potent offense can't get past great defenses, not even that record setting 16-0 offense of 2007. You have to go back to 2004 & 2003 when N.E had the #1 & #2 ranked DEFENSE when they won their last SBs, and they won 2003 with the #12 scoring offense (21.8 pts), #17 yards (315). Compare that to the 2007 offense that averaged 37 pts & 411 yards.Finfangirl, Boik14, azfinfanmang and 6 others like this. -
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You can knock the pick, but the value to move up 9 spots was just silly
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Heck, it cost Cleveland a 4th, 5th, and 7th to move up one spot from 4th to 3rd.
... and it cost Dallas pick #45 to move up 8 spots from 14 to 6. We gave up essentially the same compensation to move up 9 spots and 3 spots higher than Dallas. -
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I think the old draft chart holds even more value now that there's a rookie wage scale.
Top picks are worth more in the present, IMO because you're not stuck with a ridiculous contract. Trading up should be harder than it was in the past.
Miami got the better end of the deal, but like Desides said, in the Raiders eyes they got a good deal too. Got their guy and an extra pick(a good one no less). Win-Win
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