http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21745105/marshall-faulk-trio-suspended-nfl-network
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Why does that not surprise me? Heath Evans has always been a huge douchebag.
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Ah man this is going to come off wrong but i feel like this is just a witch hunt now. There is no standards for what constitutes someone feeling victimized. If someone has proof than that’s one thing but litterly lives families and careers are being destroyed based on something someone may or may have not intended as sexual.
If these guys did make advances or try to abuse their positions than that’s one thing.
I’m not unsumpathtic to the #metoo campaign but i’m pretty sure everyone is a victim to some degree. saying wow you look good to someone could be a compliment and to another it could be considered sexual harrasment.
I believe we need some kind of proof before we ruin people’s lives. We live in a world where people love to be the victim and where political social and personal motivations are mainstream now.
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Let’s see if she can bring up the texts
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I think this is a pandemic, whether it is exaggerated or not. I have had quite a few jobs, and Ive seen it all, from flirting to sex to lunches to nooners to work wife to relationships. Speaking for men, I think this epidemic stems from them not having to deal with their wives for 8-10 hrs a day and seeing an easy way to get a fix. I think we will see more suits, and in the smaller mom and pop businesses, you're going to see ins rates get hiked to protect themselves. The business place will change very soon and who knows, maybe they'll make more money, being more productive than reproductive
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http://heavy.com/sports/2017/12/jami-cantor-nfl-network-sexual-harassment-weinberger-faulk/
It's a little hard to believe that many people did that for that many years. In this modern age where lawsuits are filed even with no proof; I believe innocent until proven guilty still exists. She might be telling the truth, but I find it hard to believe that Faulk and McNabb were involved. -
I wonder if Marshall asked the girl to Faulk her?
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all of these douchebags are pathetic. They feel so entitled and think all the women should bend over because theyre an athlete or on TV. Good for the women for having higher standards than that.
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Saying "you look nice" will not result in harassment problems. Saying "you have a nice ***, I'd like to **** you" will.
It's not a witch hunt, so much as you now realizing what other people have to ****ing put up with. Proof is great, yes, and in THIS CASE there seems to be a fair amount of texts, videos, etc that corroborate this story. In other cases, it depends more on credibility. Unfortunately, your comments suggest not just a fundamental lack of understanding of sexual harassment and assault, but also an active hostility toward women who come forward without some kind of concrete proof, as if an *** grab is going to leave a mark long enough for an HR person to scrutinize.
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The vast majority of men who act like these sort of things are over reactions, are generally men who lack empathy.
So here's a test for those guys, imagine a guy the size of Suh, did one of the following:
A) told you, you were attractive
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B) grabbed your *** and told you how bad he wanted stick his dick in it
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If you can't tell the difference between A & B, then you're lying and likely not wanting to confront your own behavior.Last edited: Dec 12, 2017Two Tacos, Puka-head, eltos_lightfoot and 1 other person like this. -
As the father of 4 girls it's frightening how some men treat women. I would NEVER even consider doing the things these "men" have done.
I'm glad it's finally coming out and will hopefully change the culture. However, I feel sick for all the women over the years that felt as if they had to endure this in order to make a living....absolutely horrible.Two Tacos, Puka-head, eltos_lightfoot and 2 others like this. -
Hearing stories of what my friends have had to endure is very sad. Hearing stories of women who have been raped multiple times to the point where it is normal is sad.Two Tacos, Tin Indian, eltos_lightfoot and 2 others like this. -
I don't think this will be a blip, I think this is a paradigm shift.eltos_lightfoot and danmarino like this. -
However, after working around medical professionals I can say with 100% certainty that 99% of physicians would be in trouble if their staff start talking. The OR is a cesspool of sexual harassment.Two Tacos, Csonka Marino, eltos_lightfoot and 1 other person like this. -
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Heath the blowhard, self righteous, know it all is a perv after all huh? Not surprised, he just oozes the whole “my **** don’t stink, I know everything, everyone love me” persona
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Evans always was a dick I hope they fire his ***!
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I just have one question...has nothing to do with defending males or females. How can one female take "sexual harassment and sexual advances" from 6 guys at the same job? I know if she quits she can't sue. I think that's a stupid "rule." But if Monday Faulk is grabbing your ***, and on Tuesday he is again, why wasn't anything said to them? This is what is blowing my mind (nation-wide) about these cases. I am frustrated no one is complaining real time. I'm curious when Faulk started and the timing if it would have effected him getting into the Hall. Probably not
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Another person that is not being mentioned is Warren Sapp. During her employment she worked in the men's restroom. Warren Sapp went into that restroom while she was preparing clothes and urinated in front of her. She screamed at him to get out, but Mr. Sapp laughed at her and said words I will not state here. Mr. Sapp also gave her sex toys as Christmas gifts three years in a row. The lawsuit is available online if anyone wants to read the horrible details.
Sports Illustrated does mention Warren Sapp. https://www.si.com/tech-media/2017/...t-jami-cantor-lawsuit-faulk-mcnabb-weinbergerFin D likes this. -
I also want to say that the law of averages makes some if these cases also BS. I was referring to this case in a way. I mean 6-7 guys, Im sure some in the same day? And it was extended. Im sure there is the possibilityshe saw $. And this has to be open discussion. We cant be afraid to accuse women of fshing for this vs being victims. It is sensitive but the timing of these cases can be 40 yrs old -
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-07/sexual-harassment-rife-in-medical-profession-surgeon-says/6287994
https://abovethelaw.com/2017/09/sexual-harassment-of-medical-personnel-a-huge-problem/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/confronting-sexual-harassment-in-science/
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