Cool. What kind of pricetag would he carry?

 

I would think around what Avril got per year.

 

I disagree with the signing. I like the player, I don't like the fit.

1. Cameron Wake cannot pass rush on the right side the way he does on the left. He's pass rushed on the right side 171 times and his "PRP" is literally HALF what it is on the left side. All the "PRP" is, is a measure of a guy's production on a per snap basis. If you want things put more plainly, he's got 48 sacks from the left side (1 every 30 tries) and he's got 1 sack from the right side (on 171 tries).

2. The question is, can Michael Bennett switch? Maybe he can. But I tend to think not. His first step explosion and quickness are negligible. He gets pressure in other ways. I'm not sure he can be as successful against NFL left tackles as he was against right tackles. As things stand his 6.33 career "PRP" on the right (which is actually worse than Wake's, and consider that Wake's is about half on the right what it is on the left) on 150 snaps does not suggest he's good on that side.

3. Signing Michael Bennett would make the passing on Martellus Bennett all the more glaring. Maybe we can believe the report that Martellus didn't want to sign in Miami and preferred Chicago. That would've changed if he knew we were signing his brother too.

 

Free agent DE Michael Bennett is visiting the Dolphins on Thursday.

This will be the first visit for a player whose market has been surprisingly slow developing. As for the Dolphins, their cryptic "more to come" Tuesday tweet apparently wasn't a stunt. Bennett would be a huge addition for a defensive line that's already one of the league's best, but would create a logjam. Jared Odrick would likely be the odd man out.

 

I'd see Odrick being april trade bait.

 

I would rather have John Abraham.

 

I'd like the answer to that too. Then the question is would his projected production be worth the 7 mil or so it would take to sign him? I'm betting not.

 

As a nickel rusher, yes. But Abraham can't play full-time.

 

Yea, I meant as a nickel pass rusher.

 

Bennett would be a great signing for the defense, shocked people are not excited by this move? We be lucky to add him. Combined with Wake.... WoW


http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/3/9/4084076/michael-bennett-buccaneers-2013-nfl-free-agents

 

Dude's peaking. Been playing better every year. He is 27. Seems like a fit.

 

I like it. Means Odrick kicks inside as insurance or is trade bait.

 

High risk, high reward?

 

you already assume jeff is gonna get him....lol

 

The plan seems to be wait out for reasonably priced free agents and then flip current players (Bess for example). They'll absorb the dead cap this year while adding large amounts of prime talent and draft picks. I like it a lot.

 

i would really like this to happen

 

I like it too.
rotating lineman keeping guys fresh. an excellent pass rush definitely helps out our weakness at CB

 

Matt Shaughnessy is a better fit and would be cheaper.

 

Haha...I think mine would be better than Odrick's.

 

I love the player. But I assume he's going to get money, and I don't like the gamble.

You're essentially trying to hope that he can make the switch, and he's not really shown (yet) that he can do it. Maybe he can. Who knows. But it's an unnecessary risk versus guys who are a little more proven on that side.

 

A little more proven and a lot older.

 

Sign them to short deals.

 

And draft players to take over.

 

Why? I mean sure you could do that but if you really like Bennett and think he can play both sides (maybe he moves to Wake's after he's gone) why not lock him up now?

 

Well, he may not be able too. It's a risk.

But the reason I want Abraham is because I think he's much better. It's hard to believe he's out on the market, honestly. He's an elite pass rusher and he could be signed to a good deal. That doesn't happen very often. And he mainly rushes from the right side, which is convenient for us.

 

PFF had him 7th against the run and had 3rd most QB hurries last year at 48, which was more than Wake...

Interesting...

 

Well obviously we don't sign him if we don't like our odds of him being successful on the right :lol: I think Coyle will have a better idea on those odds than any of us.

With Abraham you're just waiting for the decline, imo. I like what he does but if you can get a long-term option who's as good if not better now then you do it.

 

I'm not denying that he can't play on the right. He probably can. It's still a risk, though. But hey if they sign him, I'll be on board because they do know better.

I don't see why we're just waiting for the decline on Abraham. What makes you say that?

 

Having a good stable of pass rushers is a boon. I hope we get him.

 

For some reason when I make a case like this people assume I'm being absolutely adamant as if I'm just explaining facts. I'm not. I'm explaining my opinion. I have an opinion on how well the guy fits left or right and so I'm explaining it.

For starters it's no coincidence the very FIRST thing I mentioned when talking about whether Bennett can move to the right side, was observations related to his tape. I've watched it. Before I knew ANY stats whatsoever, I came to the conclusion he would struggle in pass rush if forced to move to the right side. Why? Because consistently he shows between poor and mediocre initial quickness and speed getting into his rush. He makes up for it in other ways. He's a player I like, trust me. But I think when you're rushing the other side you're going to need that athletic ability more.

So that's when I chose to look at the stats I'd dug up for someone else. He's in there. I've got the entire league of pass rushers from 2008 to 2012 in there so I checked. I personally think the stats there back up what I noticed on the tape. He was able to affect the QB on 11.3% of snaps on the left, only 8.0% on the right, and I think that makes a lot of sense when you consider his athletic limitations and what you see on tape.

As for the athletic limitations, he ran a 5.00 at the Combine (unofficial) and followed it up with a 4.86 back home on his pro day track.

 

It's FA, everyone is a risk.

14 years in the NFL.

 

Some Free Agents are less riskier than others.

I don't get your second sentence. He's played 14 years in the NFL, so he's going to decline to sign here?

 

Yet your dream draft is to pick up Bjoern Werner, with the 12th pick who played on the left DE in college. I love Werner by the way, think he got a great motar. But not buying that Wake & Bennett would not be a great pass rushing combo. Hope Ireland can pull it off, have my fingers crossed.

 

It could just be that the players he faced on the left were better than the right not so much his adjustment or anything of that sort. Still a great DL, very good LB group, good safeties, and mediocre CBs.

 

:lol: I meant decline as in his play.

 

I think he means it's a risk because he could decline in production pretty quickly.