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That's really coach speak for "I want a different QB," isn't it?
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Yeah, that Lazor/Tanne relationship was a real sh-t storm. Damn. This is already a step in the right direction. The QB has to be involved in the game plan and has to have a good relationship with his coaches. Man, this team was seriously disfuncional.
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You're right, just found this:
http://www.thephins.com/forums/showthread.php?68237-Philbin-says-we-will-use-the-No-Huddle
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Philbin used the perfect blend of queasiness and timeouts for that "up tempo" scheme.
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Philbin to lazor "Ryan is really good at rollouts, 20 yard outs and running the ball! Let's make him a pocket passer and get him killed so we can drat Carr!
Gase to Christiansen " let's build our scheme around what our players do well!"
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The 1st game Lazor was the OC for the Fins, Carr was already a Raider, and Tanne made his biggest improvement that year as well, under Lazor.Rock Sexton, gunn34, dolphin25 and 1 other person like this.
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Its just as likely that Thill improved last year because he finally had a WR who could get YAC in Landry.
Wallace was not good with YAC here.
In 2013 he averaged 3.98 YAC per catch.
In 2014 it was actually worse, as he averaged 3.74 YAC per catch.
In 2013, Hartline as the second target to Wallace, averaged 4.16 YAC per catch.
In 2014, Landry as the second target to Wallace, averaged 5.27 YAC per catch.
That's more than a yard of YAC per catch. That's significant.Colorado Dolfan, number21, Zippy and 4 others like this. -
Maybe and maybe they were wrong. Maybe they were part of the problem. We'll finally see, but regardless, even if they didn't think he was good enough, that is not the way to go about being a coach. You do what you can and keep trying to find ways to make it work. Keep teaching. I mean, be smart. Look how things turned out after their great decisions. Whether Tanne becomes great or not, coaching has to be about teaching and cultivating, etc and not about ego. "If you're going to die, die with your boots on"number21, resnor, Shane Falco and 2 others like this.
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If you keep saying it enough, maybe it will come true
but don't forget to click your heels 3 times.Ohio Fanatic likes this. -
Its not just as likely because Landry is still here. The offense rankings with Tannehill:
2012-20th
2013-22nd
2014-8th
2015 before Lazor was fired-16th
2015 after Lazor was fired-22nd
As you can see the offense plummeted in the rankings with a different offensive coordinator but Landry was still here.jdang307 likes this. -
I don't need to keep saying anything, 29-35 speaks for itself.Finster, dolphin25 and shamegame13 like this.
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Lazor was able to hide Tannehill with a dink and dunk scheme his first year. You can only do that for so long.Finster likes this.
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Watch out around here, anyone who isnt cool with mediocrity and mediocre overpaid players will get hunted lol Having said that, im all good with Tannehill being our starter as long as we pick up a solid FA or draft a 3rd-4th rounder behind Tannehill, im gonna bank that Tannehill is average yet again and I hope this staff is smart enough to have a backup plan when this happens or else they will be just another coaching staff getting fired.
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Agreed. Give Tannehill another chance but be ready in case he flops like he did last season.dolphin25 and shamegame13 like this.
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You're not often going to get better play out of a third or fourth round pick than you've gotten from Tannehill, especially not behind the line Tannehill has had, and the defense baking him up.
But keep on wishing, I guess.eltos_lightfoot and Fin D like this. -
Kirk Cousins was a fourth round pick, he's better than Tannehill.gunn34, dolphin25 and shamegame13 like this.
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Im sure our OL wouldnt be the same excuse it has been when we have a compentent QB that understands that pass rush is a part of football and actually moves in the pocket even if that wasnt part of the design of the play. Oooohhhh Aaaaahhhhh
P.S. Russell Wilson was a 3rd round QB and he is light years better then Tannehill, if only we could go back to 2012 with that #8 overall pick. But hopefully we fix it this year and get someone prepared for when the inevitable 4-5 record comes mid season and our QB is taking sacks at a rapid pace because he has no pocket presence at all. -
Since you no longer wonder if I'm stupid, then it won't come as a surprise that I'm confused by your stance.
earlier, you reiterated that wins and loses are on the QB, yet Tannehill beat Cousins this year head to head.....sooooooooooo......my confusion is.....how are you gonna bumble**** and backbend your way through that inconsistency?Colorado Dolfan, eltos_lightfoot and resnor like this. -
Oh c'mon. I've certainly have had my complaints or doubts, but Tanne is our guy. No matter how much you come here and piss and moan, he will still be our guy. You have to also concede that some of the equation could indeed be the coaches. Tanne has shown very good play for stretches. You have to hope that these coaches have what it takes to bring out the best in him. It's often about having the right recipe. Maybe this is the right one.
I mean, this quote is great. I think this is such an important dynamic and part of a vital relationship for a coach and QB to have.djphinfan, eltos_lightfoot, dgfred and 2 others like this. -
He is indeed our guy but I can bet my left testicle that our new staff wont have the same patience with Tannehill that our previous CS did. Everything Tannehill had as a rookie is gone now, nobody in the organization is saddled to him and after next year we.can get out of his contract, and if the last 4 years have anything to do with it, Tannehill is only OUR GUY for 2016 and no further unless he steps up and actually prove he is an above mediocre QB.
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I will not take that bet because I have no interest in acquiring your left or right testicle.eltos_lightfoot, resnor, Piston Honda and 4 others like this.
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Ryan certainly could thrive with Gase in town, Ryan has his own bag of issues but Lazor was a flat out idiot. You have to have some ability to mask the weakest part of your unit in our case being the OL. I think Bill's offensive philosophy only works with a certain talent grouping, specifically not ours.
Im confident we will see some growth, but unlike last offseason I refuse to be duped into believing he will be a top QB and this will be a top team until I see it on the field.
Never have I been so confident that Miami would be a playoff team as I was last summer....I told all my mutual football buddies to mark it down....we will be in the playoffs. Then? The season started and a few games in it was obvious to me that we had a subpar team with a subpar QB.
I have hope, yes. But until I see it? They all suck.Colorado Dolfan, gunn34, dgfred and 2 others like this. -
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One game means jack ****.
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Weird, one game means **** but the 10 good games cousins has had makes him better than Tannehill? Cousins started the year terrible then has 10 good games against some pretty terrible competition. Cousins will be the next one year wonder to get a big contract.Colorado Dolfan, eltos_lightfoot, dgfred and 1 other person like this.
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I shouldn't do this, because as you know, I'm stupid, but...
How many games, specifically, does it take for wins to go from not being a reflection of the QB's ability to being a reflection of his ability? 2? 5? 300?Colorado Dolfan, eltos_lightfoot and resnor like this. -
It will be interesting to see how this helps Tannehill. The last 2 games of the year I saw more out of him, and he looked happier. We will see if any of this translates into next year when the games actually count again.
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However, Landry avg only 9 yds per catch, so his YAC is misleading, perhaps it was the fact he was running short routes that helped Tanne, on avg he caught 3 yd passes and turned them into 9 yd gains.
So Landry's YAC isn't going to effect the QBs rating when he only avg 9 yds per catch.
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I bet the same people who are saying Cousins is better than Tannehill are the same that said Foles was elite and better too after his great statistical season. Look at him now. Cousins had like 10 dropped INTs this season and was pretty terrible beyond 10 yards. This with a much better scheme and o-line than Tannehill and vs some weak defenses.
I don't think Cousins will plummet like Foles did next season because Washington has weapons who can get open quick, a good o-line and a very favorable scheme, but he'll quickly show he's nothing more than just another guy. Certainly not better than Tannehill.Colorado Dolfan, eltos_lightfoot, resnor and 2 others like this.
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