First Dolphins QB since Dan to throw for over 4000 yards in back to back seasons.
The future is so bright....
You know the rest!
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2 to 1 Td to Int ratio..again
OL gave him time and he carved the patsies up, I do not "get" the THill hate/dislikeMile High Fin, USArmyFinFan, steeda and 9 others like this. -
Oh well, luckily none of them are in charge!RevRick likes this. -
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Yeah, I'm not yet sold on Tannehill. I see games where I think he can be our franchise QB, and I see games where I think we need to get rid of him.
But the TD/INT ratio, yards and very importantly the increase in Y/A to 7.2 (first time he crossed 7) shows that overall he didn't regress from last year, even though he didn't improve anywhere as much as most hoped he would.
So I guess we'll see how he does in the 2016 season! The most important improvements I want to see are much better pocket awareness (shift to avoid pressure, and know when to run), clutch performance when trailing in the 4th, and consistency.MAFishFan, Sceeto, cuchulainn and 2 others like this. -
With the OL being so bad for so long, we simply don't really know what we have in Tannehill.
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When I hear he is "the 25th Qb in the league" find it absurd, he has a lot to work with and keep in mind the Staff was chaos this season, he maintained, good in a way, not great in another way. The mantra in the NFL is "great players make great plays", which he did not consistently do this year -
People like to think that Ryan Tannehill is hard to figure out. I disagree. It's not a coincidence that he plays his best games when the offensive line actually gives him decent time to scan the field. We saw it against the Giants, and we saw it against the Patriots. That New England defense is no slouch either.
I saw a lot of comments today about Tannehill along the lines of "why can't he play like this all the time?"
That's simple, because most of the time the offensive line is dog ****, and when they decide to not be dog ****, look what happens. Big, clutch throws throughout the game.
Ryan has things he needs to improve upon without a doubt, but it's games like this that show you why people still believe in him. He's perfectly capable of winning games, the rest of the offense just needs to do their part. Add in a coaching staff that actually knows what they're doing and we have something cooking.Mile High Fin, RGF, dgfred and 9 others like this. -
Tannehil has been playing with a similar OL for years.
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One good game still hasn't sold me on him. This title could have easily been "Tannehill with another first"...........win in the last game of the season.
EDIT: Remember...this weeks game was the first TD pass he threw in a few games too.jdang307 likes this. -
I'm totally confidant that we have a QB who is already proven to be good. He may even become great, when not handicapped by the nonsense and garbage he's been surrounded by. -
The blocking WAS better yesterday. The run game WAS better yesterday. Tannehill WAS better yesterday. The Defense WAS better yesterday. It was evident of what we have when all the pieces are playing together. For the team.
RT is not the biggest issue that needs addressed. In fact I think he has shown he can be a weapon given the proper TEAM around him. Hopeful that the new coach agrees and that they spend some time/money fixing the OL this offseason and that RT really starts to shine.dgfred, Shane Falco and resnor like this. -
With Tanne it's all about clutch, I've said it time and again, I'd be happy with Tanne IF he was clutch.
1 good game after a string of bad games hasn't changed my opinion of Tanne, but like most people I'd love to see a good Oline here, I thought they should have spent 2-3 picks on Oline last year.dolphin25 likes this. -
This just in folks, in move showing both leadership and charisma Ryan Tannehill has personally informed both Jason Fox and Dallas Thomas they can **** off.
Quick...someone cue Vince doing the "you're fired!"resnor likes this. -
He still hasn't shown me all that I'd like to see, but his YPA has improved, and that's with a lower completion % meaning shots further down the field are being completed. He's going nowhere for 2016 and if he stinks up the joint, will still get part of 2017 to compete with whoever. He's no Russell Wilson but he's what we got, and his ceiling isn't that high but high enough.
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And there's overwhelming evidence of how important pass protection is in general, in relation to how well a QB performs. Whether it's the fall from grace that Andrew Luck experienced in the eyes of media/fans in 2015, to the rise of Dalton and Newton (7th and 4th best pass protecting offensive lines) in the eyes of media/fans. You can't turn on a sports related TV/radio show today without hearing about Rodgers and Brady's inability to succeed in the face over constant and overwhelming pressure. Yet, nobody seems to care that Tannehill has dealt with those same offensive line limitations his entire career. Sacks, hits, pressures, etc... Tannehill has never had a season without that kind of tremendous adversity.
Last year he finished with a 93 qb rating, this year 89. He's limited his INT's to 12 in back to back years, which is a pretty strong number. Only twice did he have multiple INT games in 2015. Set a franchise record for most att. w/o an INT (He almost accomplished that as a rookie, BTW, so that isn't a fluke). Set an NFL record for consecutive competitions, besting McNabb. At one point in 2015, he was trailing only Tom Brady for most consecutive games with multiple TD passes... Last year, he became the first QB since Vick to have 4 straight games of 40+ yards rushing (5 yards away from 5 straight). I'm not saying he's Brady, Marino, Vick, McNabb, whoever else. I'm not saying he's elite. My thoughts on Tannehill are summed up, like this...
Tannehill at his worst, has shown over the last 3 seasons, he's a high floor QB. He's going to throw 20+ TD's, 4,000 yards, 60% completion, and limit his INT's to around 12-14ish. He isn't going to make a ton of mistakes. He's not going to make a ton bad reads and bad throws. And he can/does flash high ceiling ability. Now that we know his floor, the question is now, what's his ceiling? I can't give anyone a definitive answer to that question. We'll never know until this organization invests various resources into their franchise QB.
I will say, it's encouraging to see guys like Andy Dalton and Cam Newton step up in the way they have. Cam is kind of a different animal than anyone else in the league, so he's hard to compare anyone with... That being said, both QB's have top offensive line production/pass protection in 2015, something which neither have had previously. And Both QB's took huge leaps in their passing game. On the flip side, Andrew Luck's fall from grace is also encouraging, in another way. With an offensive line that's as bad as Miami's, Luck produced 17 TD's, 15 INT's, 55% completion, and 6.4 YPA. Fix the offensive line and I feel good about Miami's offense and Tannehill.Mcduffie81, dgfred, cuchulainn and 7 others like this. -
Cam, is a different animal than anything we've ever seen at QB. It's so hard to compare him against anyone. Having said that, despite being more dynamic, many did believe Tannehill was a better passer. From Peter King, Greg Cosell, etc... Those type of thoughts were echoed by many people here too. And just like Tannehill, there were people questioning if he had "earned" his new contract. *For the record, I've been on Cam's bandwagon all along. I think he's a special player in every way.
With Dalton, especially after his 2014 season, the narrative over the course of the off-season was that he could lose his job to AJ McCarron. In fact, some people thought McCarron had a stronger camp than Dalton and it was only a matter of time before he took over. Those thoughts were washed away when Dalton started slinging at an elite level. But they did exist at one point and for good reason. Dalton didn't consistently play at a high level and was a turnover prone with 3 consecutive seasons with 16+ INT.
The comparison of Cam and Dalton to Tannehill is fair. Both QB's had question marks, as neither had ever had "elite seasons." Both teams have top 10 offensive lines in 2015 and both took huge leaps in their passing ability. If Miami were to invest in their franchise QB, I could just as easily see Tannehill having similar success as he's already demonstrated he's a high floor QB w/poor offenses.number21 and Shane Falco like this. -
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What am I making up exactly? That was the quote, that Dalton and Newton have risen, when they have been good all along. It is not like they were bad QB's before this year and I would have taken either of those over Tannehill in any year. But, if you want to twist the truth go ahead. -
I have not seen anywhere on any of those channels past and present for a number of years (51 right now) any qualified commentator break down the plays sufficiently to show that those routes are open as consistently as I read those assertions on these boards from those who choose to base the failure of the entire offense on the most visible target - the quarterback. Do you have the coaches tape and the coaches credentials to make such statements? Or, are 'you' - not you specifically, but any of those who assert such claims - able to speak to the question? -
You are stepping on a dog crap land mine that's on a trap door which leads to a dungeon that has a trail of redundancy that goes down a steep hill slicked up with stupid at the end of which is a brick wall of spin. If you continue down this path, and by all means someone of your stature and maturity level should absolutely not...but if you do, you should not make this decent into forum hell alone. Bring an experienced guide.
Please contact adamprez, resnor or myself as any one of us would be happy to assist you in your ill advised trip into madness as your personal Derp Sherpa.
Barring that, I would like to reiterate that the sensible thing to do, would be to merely observe from a safe and respectable distance.
It also wouldn't hurt to wear a tivex suit and respirator as well.
Sincerely,
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Someone needs to make us a sweet sig pic with that title in it, and maybe some sort of guide leading someone through a maelstrom or something.
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When Tannehill is getting sacked quickly, which is usually the case, it's not really being "locked onto" a receiver. It's about not having time to go through progressions.
But keep on with your drivel about how bad he is.Rocky Raccoon, Shane Falco, Clark Kent and 2 others like this. -
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Anyone remember that 3rd and 12 completion along the sideline to Parker on Sunday?
Tannehill took the snap. Looked left. Then looked middle. Then looked right and threw a strike.
And once again, it proves that Tannehill looks like what a good quarterback is supposed to look like when he actually has time to scan the field.
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DeVante Parker is nominated for Rookie of the week.
http://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/2015/REG/17?campaign=tw-nf-sf18064686-sf18064686
Next to his name there is a highlight package for him. Click and watch the first play. It's the one I referenced.
Tannehill scans the field from left to right because he actually has time to. This isn't rocket science, fellas.
Also, Tannehill is nominate for:
Clutch performer of the week: http://www.nfl.com/voting/clutch-performer/2015/REG/17?campaign=tw-nf-sf18065546-sf18065546
And QB of the week: http://www.nfl.com/voting/players-air-and-ground/2015/REG/17?campaign=tw-nf-sf18065539-sf18065539
Ryan being nominated for clutch performer of the week is weird, because I was told that he could never come through in the 4th quarter. I was also told he couldn't play well against division foes. Double weird.cuchulainn, adamprez2003, Mcduffie81 and 2 others like this.
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