The refs in the NFL are just sad…
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JJ_79forum_veteranOPWatching Bengals-Raiders, seems like the refs not only suck against us. It’s sad to see that they keep getting so many calls wrong and that with all the help they get…
TheHighExhaultedforum_veteranHow can you blow a play dead and then say "Oh no forget about it, it's a touchdown"?
That's something I thought could only happen to Miami.
Roukforum_veteranRaiders always get jobbed by the refs in the playoffs. It’s written into the rules.
Galantforum_veteranOnce again dispute over what is a catch.
It's really a simple matter. If you have the ball firmly in your hands it's a catch. If you don't it's not.
All this football move nonsense is irrelevant.
That was a catch by Renfrow.
Get it right NFL.
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JJ_79forum_veteran"Galant wrote:
Once again dispute over what is a catch.
It's really a simple matter. If you have the ball firmly in your hands it's a catch. If you don't it's not.
All this football move nonsense is irrelevant.That was a catch by Renfrow.
Get it right NFL.
Especially when they ruled it a catch on the field.
TheHighExhaultedforum_veteranDerek Carr has a perfect pocket and five seconds to throw every pass.
Frustrating to watch.
OwesOwn614forum_veteran"TheHighExhaulted wrote:
Derek Carr has a perfect pocket and five seconds to throw every pass.
Frustrating to watch.
What's frustrating is that if we didn't blow the game against them, they'd be watching us play this weekend.
OwesOwn614forum_veteranMy brother is a huge (read: "obnoxious") Steelers fan. Whenever he comes to town and complains about a call against his team, I ask him about the game below. I can't help but think about it first when it comes to terrible calls against the Dolphins.
ExplosionsInDaSkyforum_veteranI get that being a ref can be a hard job, but these guys are straight up buffoons. The ten minute conferences in the middle of a game over a holding penalty really stagnates and slows the game down. It really seems like 30 years ago they made quicker, more precise calls and that was without all the upgraded technology at their disposal that they have now. The game overall just isn't fun anymore for me personally. The whole vibe and landscape has changed for the worse in my opinion.
texanphinaticforum_veteran"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
I get that being a ref can be a hard job, but these guys are straight up buffoons. The ten minute conferences in the middle of a game over a holding penalty really stagnates and slows the game down. It really seems like 30 years ago they made quicker, more precise calls and that was without all the upgraded technology at their disposal that they have now. The game overall just isn't fun anymore for me personally. The whole vibe and landscape has changed for the worse in my opinion.
There is a definite argument to be made that replay has actually made things worse.
I personally wouldn't mind if replay went away from game officials and instead were just auto-triggered by a command center who quickly affirms or overrules the on-field call and the game moves on.
The point of replay imo was to correct egregious calls. Unfortunately, it's turned into "processes" and minutia and we still manage to make big mistakes regularly.
"texanphinatic wrote:
I personally wouldn't mind if replay went away from game officials and instead were just auto-triggered by a command center who quickly affirms or overrules the on-field call and the game moves on.
I'd go even further. Just have everything called from a command center with refs doing nothing more regarding penalties than communicating the decision. The problem with ref decisions being reviewed by a command center is you still miss cases where refs should have called a penalty but didn't. Refs can still make play by play decisions like positioning the ball etc. but penalties are handled elsewhere.
Puka-headsubscriberThey should definitely take the refs out of ball placement and In or out of bounds or crossing the goal line etc plays. The tech exists so they could know the PRECISE location of the ball at all times in 3D on the field. Richest business in sports needs to get it done already.
TheHighExhaultedforum_veteranBrady just got tapped in the hip and they called roughing the passer for a low hit. lol
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Rule #2: See rule #1
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The_Dark_Knightforum_veteran"TheHighExhaulted wrote:
Brady just got tapped in the hip and they called roughing the passer for a low hit. lol
Gene Steratore, Aikmen and everyone else thought it was a bad call but, when we’re talking about his royal highness…
All of these roughing the passer calls are getting ridiculous. I get protecting a defenseless player but for crying outloud, quarterbacks are football players too
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KeyFinforum_veteranWat Pitt ever in the game versus the Chiefs? I crashed early and didn't get to see any of it.
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M1NDCRlMEforum_veteran"KeyFin wrote:
Wat Pitt ever in the game versus the Chiefs? I crashed early and didn't get to see any of it.
It was 0-0 at the end of the 1st. Then it was 7-7…and then it was over. KC got back on track and PItt was dead and buried early in the 3rd
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that and.....the city of jacksonville sucks.
Kud_IIforum_veteranYou would think with all the technology available these days we wouldn't even need 'Zebras' determining games with good/bad calls. If a love tap is roughing the passer for one QB it should be the same for the others. And home-field advantage also was never meant for the 'refs' to 'side with the home team'
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"Kud_II wrote:
You would think with all the technology available these days we wouldn't even need 'Zebras' determining games with good/bad calls. If a love tap is roughing the passer for one QB it should be the same for the others.
Technology isn't advanced enough to do that one, and probably won't be for a very long time. Still need humans for that. Best option during a game is calling penalties from a booth, though that won't make calls comparable across games/conditions.
The main barrier to improving ref quality is the NFLRA. Even though NFL refs have their calls constantly evaluated they almost never get fired for making bad calls, regardless of how many they make, and that's due to the NFLRA. Same in baseball, etc.
If you want better reffing you need to make job performance the main metric for retaining or firing a ref. What a revolutionary idea eh? The NFL won't go for that though no matter how bad things get.
Dol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran"cbrad wrote:
Technology isn't advanced enough to do that one, and probably won't be for a very long time. Still need humans for that. Best option during a game is calling penalties from a booth, though that won't make calls comparable across games/conditions.
The main barrier to improving ref quality is the NFLRA. Even though NFL refs have their calls constantly evaluated they almost never get fired for making bad calls, regardless of how many they make, and that's due to the NFLRA. Same in baseball, etc.
If you want better reffing you need to make job performance the main metric for retaining or firing a ref. What a revolutionary idea eh? The NFL won't go for that though no matter how bad things get.
IMO, that only makes sense if they go with full time refs. It is 2020 and being a ref in the NFL is still a side job or a hobby.
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"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
IMO, that only makes sense if they go with full time refs. It is 2020 and being a ref in the NFL is still a side job or a hobby.
Is that true? These refs are making 200K a year... that's not side job money!
Puka-headsubscriber"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:
IMO, that only makes sense if they go with full time refs. It is 2020 and being a ref in the NFL is still a side job or a hobby.
Shoulda happened long ago. Full time refs could be conditioning during the week, watching film, collaborating during the season. Training camp in the offseason, and then going to training camps of the teams for practice. They should absolutely be signing contracts to be full time employees of the NFL and have their performance evaluated, and rewarded accordingly. Teams developed to work together. A steady pool of incoming rookies to train up, practice squads even to develop and create consistency. Reps at Owners meetings NFLPA competition committee etc.
Mix that with the best technology has to offer with replay, cameras everywhere, pin point tracking of the ball in 3D all of which would be easy to do now, and you would have something maybe not perfect, cuz nothing except the 72 Dolphins is, but pretty darn close.
And no matter what, nothing justifies violence or threats of violence against refs at any level. I used to ref youth volleyball and the parents were just awful. I quit doing it before I had to throat punch somebody, or be assaulted by imbeciles.
Vertical Limitforum_veteran"plc001 wrote:
Is that true? These refs are making 200K a year... that's not side job money!
Most of these referees are high prominent lawyers in some of the biggest law firms this country has..
JJ_79forum_veteranBrady got a penalty, still in awe…
TheHighExhaultedforum_veteran"JJ_79 wrote:
Brady got a penalty, still in awe…
All the crying, yelling and cursing he does he finally got a penalty. First of his career.
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