I enjoyed the game today- it was a loss nonetheless but I saw a lot of improvements on the field on both sides of the ball. Rosen was refreshing to watch and he was honestly the best QB on the field in the first half. If every catchable ball was caught in those first two quarters, we would have been leading by 17 at halftime.
The defense played better at times as well, partially because we controlled the time of possession in the first half. The Cowboys main adjustment at halftime was realizing that Miami's receivers can beat you one on one every time yet they can't catch the football, so it made more sense to send pressure. Jesse Davis being out was a super tough blow for this young line as well....hopefully he's okay. That's where our productivity started dropping on offense.
I'm going to keep this one short but overall, we saw some real potential today. It was a winnable game with Rosen and he'll likely earn us a couple of W's this season. It does suck that we lost but at least it was respectable considering it was the Cowboys lowest scoring game of the season. Miami was also pretty clean on penalties today as well.
One gripe I have to bring up- that's the 2nd time this season Preston Williams caught a TD pass, had it knocked out after the fact and Flores didn't challenge. It would have been a close call either way, but when you're not using your timeouts anyway, there was zero reason not to challenge it.
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The story of this game in my opinion was of the opposing team’s knowing it was playing against one of the worst teams in the history of the league, and seeing if it could get away with a win without giving much effort.
Consequently there was the mirage of the first half, in which it looked like the Dolphins had improved and were actually competitive. That was attributable to the other team’s complacency, however.
When it became apparent at the half that Dallas would need to give at least a modicum of effort, it then did so, and won handily.resnor, Hooligan, KeyFin and 1 other person like this. -
Again though- Rosen threw a TD pass to Williams that we settled for 3 points on. Parker dropped a TD pass at the 5. Drake killed a TD drive at the 5 from not protecting the football. Plus how many other near perfect passes were dropped for big gains? That's probably 20 points we left on the field from poor effort. And if we went into halftime leading 24-10, then it's a completely different game in the 2nd half.
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btw.. I don't think this issue can be fixed for Preston Williams and I'd just get rid of him. I totally overestimated our talent at WR earlier this year and have to re-adjust my expectations.Tin Indian, resnor and KeyFin like this. -
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All the drops and Drake fumbling at the goal line was Rosen's fault. He just doesn't have it.
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Positives for me:
1. We were competitive most of the game
2. Rosen made some nice throws
3. No INTs from RosenIrishman, Tin Indian, Surfs Up 99 and 3 others like this. -
Personally, I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see us not draft a QB next year because it's going to mean 3 more 1st rounders in 2019/2020 and still probably picking twice in the top 10. So part of my motivation for wanting Rosen to be the guy is simply outright greed...I want to trade that #1 overall pick! -
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Positivse the Dolphins should have went in half time with the lead it was right there for the taking.
(Drakes fumble at goal and a missed field goal.)
Rosen could be a decent QB with a supporting cast.Irishman, Tin Indian and KeyFin like this. -
The drops were beyond terrible. If I was Flores, I would let them know that the draft is deep at WR, and they are all replaceable.
Grant has looked particularly horrible. I would honestly make him inactive next week, and send him a message. If you are not gonna catch passes, we will find someone else who will.
Drake can have his trade. How can you whine and complain all the time that you are not a starter, and then fumble when we have a chance to win? We have Walton and Laird, let's give them reps.
I think part of this season needs to be finding out who are willing to do their jobs.
I thought Rosen looked really good.Irishman, Tin Indian, resnor and 2 others like this. -
Rosen looked promising at times. I will leave it at that. I watched some of the game and our offensive line gave him maybe one second to throw the ball if that. Constant pressure, constant harassment from Dallas. Even in the first half when Dallas was barely trying they were still getting to Rosen in a split second. It's hard to evaluate any quarterback behind an offensive line as putrid as the poo flavored buffet that we serve up every Sunday.
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The Drake fumble really took all the wind out the sails. That was absolutely a killer. The drops killed opportunities. Rosen played well, especially considering the circumstances. That was definitely a positive.
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As soon as any other team gives effort, the Dolphins are toast, regardless of whether they are dropping or completing passes.Last edited: Sep 23, 2019 -
For any bettors on the site, I would recommend you place wagers on the Dolphins for first quarter and first half bets through the remainder of the season, because opposing teams are going to come out complacent against them, and those spreads are likely to be relatively large and leave room for games like the one we saw yesterday.
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if we learned anything the past three games, Jeudy and Chase Young are definitely in our radar with our first pick.
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Tua has two out of this world receivers out there both of which will be drafted in the first round in Jeudy and Ruggs. These two... they get separation like no tandem ive ever seen before in college football, and then a running back like Najee Harris who may be a late first round pick. Not to mention some linemen they got as well like Leatherwood.. Devonta Smith and Waddle are also two very good receivers..
Tua is to Alabama what Ken Dorsey was to Miami. He cant possibly mess it up when the talent around him is so insanely good. His advanced statistics against teams with a Top 30 defense has shown below average numbers. So yeah he has ridiculous numbers, but even I could have started for Alabama this past Saturday and record four touchdowns against Southern Miss or New Mexico State, or Duke.... the windows he throws the ball to are about 10-15 feet wide and his receivers have insane catch radius.. i am definitely going to tune in when he faces Texas A&M, LSU and Auburn. Those will be his 3 biggest tests before the playoff.
i watch college football more than anything and im tuned in 3 games at a time usually. Tua is a stand up kid and maybe he can succeed if hes drafted in a situation like the Saints or Chargers where he can learn behind a great quarterback and then step in and take over. He is not a guy i draft to a team that is going through a hard reset. He is not Baker Mayfield, who i know isnt doing great right now in Cleveland but his leadership and personality is what cleveland needed.Last edited: Sep 24, 2019 -
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I would argue that he did more than enough this past Sunday to be considered a franchise QB prospect. Our receiving corp of three guys, however, did not. It didn't help that Gisecki was in the rotation in the 2nd half due to injury...we had three total WR's on the roster when Hurns got hurt.Bumrush, Irishman and The_Dark_Knight like this. -
And a true franchise QB isn’t going to disappear once adversity hits. Zero points in the 2nd half is NEVER to be expected from a franchise QB.
As stated, Rosen has 13 games to prove otherwise, but right now he’s backup material.The Guy likes this. -
But it's stupid to judge a QB on the result of the play, like you are doing when you look at the passer rating, and draw conclusions. You should be judging Rosen, or any QB, on what HE did. Did he make the right read/decision? Did he make a good throw? It doesn't matter if the receivers drop every ball that is thrown to them, that doesn't reflect poorly on the QB.
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Honestly, I feel like some of you guys didn't play any sports growing up. When you are making good plays, but your teammates constantly let you down, you don't play free and easy. You start pressing, trying to make perfect plays, and that's when mistakes hit. You get to cute with the ball, and you try to do things your wouldn't normally try to do, because the usual things aren't working. Trying to completely separate QB play, as it pertains to results, from the rest of the team, is an exercise in futility.
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