Week 12 - Dolphins at Commanders

"OwesOwn614 wrote:

Notice who's #2 on this list:

That Sam Howell guy looks intriguing. Their D sucks big time though…

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Where did I claim that?

Where did I claim to know more then McDaniel?

"KeyFin wrote:

The VAST MAJORITY of Tua's throws should not be thrown by the average QB- we fire into double/triple coverage regularly and it's a recipe for disaster in most cases. In this offense though, with Tua's sniper-like accuracy, he's encouraged to thread the needle and he has to have that confidence to fire.

McDaniel knows that those passes are dangerous but it's a high risk, high reward offense where the ball is coming out ultra fast. If he says, double check the safety or the roaming LB before releasing this throw...then the timing is no longer there and Tua takes the sack. So the coaches can certainly call out bad plays, but I don't think they can be too critical given what they're asking Tua to do with a porous line and a 2.5 second window to throw. He has to fire, even before that window is open sometimes...that's where the magic of this offense comes from.

Would we rather see less INT's? Absolutely. But not at the expense of slowing down this offense.

Was that the case for any of the last 4 interceptions? Pretty sure McDaniel is not asking him to throw into double and triple coverage.

"FinFaninBuffalo wrote:

This is 1000% correct. Most people simply don't recognize that there are trade offs with everything. Want fewer sacks? Max protect or just throw dump offs.... Want fewer INTs? Throw nothing but safe throws or take sacks....

odd how the QB himself is really upset with the turnovers. Have to admit this is a new one for me after watching football for 50 years. Turnovers are now a good thing. Amazing how the game has changed.

"dolphin25 wrote:

odd how the QB himself is really upset with the turnovers. Have to admit this is a new one for me after watching football for 50 years. Turnovers are now a good thing. Amazing how the game has changed.

Not sure why you are having trouble understanding. Nobody said turnovers are a good thing.

Let me try to simplify it for you with an analogy. Car accidents are a bad thing. We all want no car accidents. You could absolutely eliminate all car accidents by eliminating driving. That would not be a good thing. That doesn't mean car accidents are good. It also doesn't mean that if you cause a car accident, you shouldn't be upset with yourself. Clear?

INTs are a bad thing. We all want no INTs. You could absolutely eliminate all INTs by never throwing the ball, or play such a conservative offense that it becomes ineffective. That would not be a good thing. That doesn't mean INTs are good. It also doesn't mean that if the QB throws an INT he shouldn't be upset with himself. Clear?

"FinFaninBuffalo wrote:

Not sure why you are having trouble understanding. Nobody said turnovers are a good thing.

Let me try to simplify it for you with an analogy. Car accidents are a bad thing. We all want no car accidents. You could absolutely eliminate all car accidents by eliminating driving. That would not be a good thing. That doesn't mean car accidents are good. It also doesn't mean that if you cause a car accident, you shouldn't be upset with yourself. Clear?

INTs are a bad thing. We all want no INTs. You could absolutely eliminate all INTs by never throwing the ball, or play such a conservative offense that it becomes ineffective. That would not be a good thing. That doesn't mean INTs are good. It also doesn't mean that if the QB throws an INT he shouldn't be upset with himself. Clear?

you were just defending turnovers and implying they don't matter. Goodness!

In the history of football winning the turnover battle has been one of the biggest reasons for winning a game.

Pretty positive car insurance companies do not say, "Oh, it is OK you keep having car accidents. " LOL

"dolphin25 wrote:

Was that the case for any of the last 4 interceptions? Pretty sure McDaniel is not asking him to throw into double and triple coverage.

McDaniel is asking him to throw farther down field than anyone with a quicker release time than anyone in more complicated offense than anyone behind a suspect pass blocking OL. I noticed that you ignored the fact that McDaniel took the blame for the pick 6 because of a bad play call.

"dolphin25 wrote:

you were just defending turnovers and saying they don't matter. Goodness!

Where. EXACTLY. Provide the quote.

"FinFaninBuffalo wrote:

Where. EXACTLY. Provide the quote.

"This is 1000% correct. Most people simply don't recognize that there are trade offs with everything. Want fewer sacks? Max protect or just throw dump offs.... Want fewer INTs? Throw nothing but safe throws or take sacks...."

"FinFaninBuffalo wrote:

McDaniel is asking him to throw farther down field than anyone with a quicker release time than anyone in more complicated offense than anyone behind a suspect pass blocking OL. I noticed that you ignored the fact that McDaniel took the blame for the pick 6 because of a bad play call.

So, you are saying the interceptions were not Tua's fault? Neither of them were down field though correct?

I get it, you believe Tua does nothing wrong.

Coach would most always take the blame, that is what good coaches do. However, coach did not lob the ball over there. Did you excuse Mike White when he threw pretty much the exact same pick 6?

"FinFaninBuffalo wrote:

Where. EXACTLY. Provide the quote.

"This is 1000% correct. Most people simply don't recognize that there are trade offs with everything. Want fewer sacks? Max protect or just throw dump offs.... Want fewer INTs? Throw nothing but safe throws or take sacks...."

That was your response into the comment about it is OK as long as it does not slow down the defense.

"dolphin25 wrote:

"This is 1000% correct. Most people simply don't recognize that there are trade offs with everything. Want fewer sacks? Max protect or just throw dump offs.... Want fewer INTs? Throw nothing but safe throws or take sacks...."

highlight the words "sacks don't matter"

"FinFaninBuffalo wrote:

highlight the words "sacks don't matter"

dude, you do not even know what you are saying. No one commented about sacks, you were responding to a statement about interceptions.

Would we rather see less INT's? Absolutely. But not at the expense of slowing down this offense.

"This is 1000% correct. Most people simply don't recognize that there are trade offs with everything. Want fewer sacks? Max protect or just throw dump offs.... Want fewer INTs? Throw nothing but safe throws or take sacks...."

"dolphin25 wrote:

dude, you do not even know what you are saying. No one commented about sacks, you were responding to a statement about interceptions.

Would we rather see less INT's? Absolutely. But not at the expense of slowing down this offense.

"This is 1000% correct. Most people simply don't recognize that there are trade offs with everything. Want fewer sacks? Max protect or just throw dump offs.... Want fewer INTs? Throw nothing but safe throws or take sacks...."

quote where I wrote "INTs don't matter". should be easy

"FinFaninBuffalo wrote:

quote where I wrote "INTs don't matter". should be easy

again, you don't even understand what you say. I stated months ago your reading comprehension was weak, but did not realize it also applied to your own words.

If a poster says, not concerned about interceptions as i dont want the offense slowed down, and you say "I agree 1000%" What else do you think that means?

"OwesOwn614 wrote:

This is accurate! Man I was definitely sloppy in this game and that’s unacceptable! Gotta get my shit together asap!!
I will put the work in and be better out there for my team this weekend!
🐬💙 https://t.co/6QWuU8LB68

— T. Stead 🎤🎧 (@T_Armstead72) November 28, 2023

He’s also out of shape at this point, I know what his body looked like at camp and I know what it looks like now

This dude better get his shit together cause right now he’s just milking us, and yes I think he speaks very well when he’s in front of a camera so we all want to believe he is who he says he is.

"dolphin25 wrote:

again, you don't even understand what you say. I stated months ago your reading comprehension was weak, but did not realize it also applied to your own words.

If a poster says, not concerned about interceptions as i dont want the offense slowed down, and you say "I agree 1000%" What else do you think that means?

So you can't find a quote of me saying "INTs don't matter". Glad we cleared that up.

I already tried to explain it to you in as simple terms as I can. Not going to try again.

Could we not turn this into a Tua thread before game time? And yes Tua has to work on those turnovers it’s been 10 fumbles and 14 INT and I bet if you‘d ask him he would agree.

"dolphin25 wrote:

Where did I claim to know more then McDaniel?

Then why did you mention anything about being smarter than a coach?

"FinFaninBuffalo wrote:

I've been three times before. Saw the Dolphins in 2015 and the Bills this season. I was also there for a Premier League double header in July. Not a great stadium but great to see the Dolphins live.

I used to live in the DMV, saw a couple of games there. Crap location and crap stadium, but I'm sure you and your sons will have a great time regardless!

"JJ_79 wrote:

That Sam Howell guy looks intriguing. Their D sucks big time though…

Everyone was rolling their eyes when Washington said that they were happy with Howell heading into the season, but it’s looking like they were right to be optimistic. His OL is terrible, and that has led to sacks and turnovers, but he has been pretty darn good otherwise.

"Fishhead wrote:

Everyone was rolling their eyes when Washington said that they were happy with Howell heading into the season, but it’s looking like they were right to be optimistic. His OL is terrible, and that has led to sacks and turnovers, but he has been pretty darn good otherwise.

Hopefully, that does not ruin him.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Then why did you mention anything about being smarter than a coach?

quote?

"FinFaninBuffalo wrote:

"INTs don't matter".

You said it right up there! LOL

Sam Howell is quickly becoming one of my favorite quarterbacks. He grew up just a little ways away from where I live so I am rooting for him as a pro. Just not this Sunday. I actually think this one will be high scoring on both sides. I expect a shootout to be honest, but I think we'll win. Miami 45 Washington 31. Should be a fun game.

"ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:

Sam Howell is quickly becoming one of my favorite quarterbacks. He grew up just a little ways away from where I live so I am rooting for him as a pro. Just not this Sunday. I actually think this one will be high scoring on both sides. I expect a shootout to be honest, but I think we'll win. Miami 45 Washington 31. Should be a fun game.

They have a nice offense but I don't see them hanging 31 on us.