Was listening to NFL network where they had a piece on the top 4 teams in the Division and it got me legit mad. They were listing the top 4 teams and even those on the bubble and Miami wasn’t listed or talked about.
Here is their top 4 in order
1. KC
2. Bengals
3. Ravens
4. Jets
They mentioned the Bills as 5.
Look I’m not saying we’re the best and I still think we need a better OLINE. However we’re on paper better than the Ravens and the Jests.
All of this is on paper but they believe Aaron rodgers alone puts them in top 4. What a crock of camel ***. I can’t wait for Farve part 2..
And the ravens haven’t really improved at all except they signed Jackson to a higher contract. He’s been there for years and they can’t get it done.
Miami deserves like all these on paper to be top 5 for sure.
No teams matches our offense in terms of speed and talent. KC is my default -#1 but after that I don’t see the speed talent and coaching that is better than us.
we will have to see how this goes but I’d say my top 5 are.
1. KC
2. Bills
3. Miami
4. Bengals
5. Chargers
what are your top 5 AFC teams??
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All rankings assume health of QBs etc.
#1 chiefs
#2 daylight.
#3, 4 Bills, Dolphins
# 5 Bengals - Maybe I should rate them higher, but I can’t bring myself to do that.
After that you’ve got a bunch of teams I don’t really believe in. Jets, Ravens and Chargers all have QBs that I feel are overhyped. The Steelers and Pats don’t have a QB. Titans are realizing just how stupid it was to let AJ Brown walk. The Broncos have a QB but have to work out WTF went wrong in 2022 and fix it - and I don’t think the problem was with the players on the field which is why they may be able to turn it around quickly.
Then there’s a bunch of scrubs, one of whom is likely to put together a cinderella run.Irishman likes this. -
1a. Chiefs
1b. Dolphins
2. Jets
3. Bengals
4. Ravens
I think the Bills take a step back this year. Josh Allen has some bad baby momma drama incoming after getting a bartender pregnant. Damar Hamlin returning will be more of a distraction than inspiration. If Tua can stay on the field we win the AFC.Irishman likes this. -
I think there is one great team in the AFC and a bunch of good teams.
In the NFC I think there is one good team and a bunch of average teams.
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Miami should definitely be ranked top 5 in the AFC, definitely above the Jets, definitely above the Ravens and definitely above the Bengals.
That’s ok though that the Dolphins are ranked so low preseason. I like it actually. The utter disrespect for this team will be its own motivation for them to come out and open a can of whoop a$$ on everyone.
Let’s see what time they’re singing come November…December. I’m actually higher on the Dolphins this upcoming season than I was last season.Irishman and Tuanon4Life like this. -
Cinci is overrated? They've been in the AFC Championship two years in a row and Burrow is probably the second best QB in the league right now. Anyone rating them below us right now? Crazy.
Chiefs clear number 1.
Bengals clear number 2.
A hodgepodge of teams in no particular order 3-8: Buffalo, Miami, Jets, Ravens, Bolts and Jags.
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Tier 1: Chiefs, Bills, Bengals
We aren't there yet. If everything possible goes well this season, then we have the potential to end the year in the conversation, but for now its TBD.
Tier 2: Dolphins, Chargers, Ravens. All three have proven that if they can stay healthy, they're legit challengers to the top tier.
Tier 3: Jets, Jaguars, Steelers.
Tier 4: Patriots, Broncos, Raiders, Browns, Colts, Titans
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2. Miami and Buffalo are even in my book, it's a coin toss which is better today. With huge defensive upgrades, I think we're the better team in 2023 though so Miami goes here by just a hair.
3. Buffalo for the reasons above.
4. Bengals are dominant and I think Burrow is a top-2 QB in the entire league (Mahommes is #1 since he's not actually human). Could they sweep the top 3 next year? Yeah, because the competition and talent is really that close.
5. Baltimore is clearly the worst of the bunch due to their heads-up matches the past few seasons. Still a dominant, elite team by any regards...the AFC is just super loaded and the Ravens are better than most.
9. Jets. I'd put Jax, Chargers, and Pitt all above NY....and that's giving the Jets a ton of props for Rodgers when he hasn't actually proven a thing yet. I think they'll be around a 9-8 team overall and that definitely won't be enough to make the playoffs. Cleveland has a ton of potential as well, but we're not giving them pretend all-star rankings before they prove anything....so let's not do it for NY either, LOL.Irishman likes this. -
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Similar place to last year 6th-8th.
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With the loss of some of their defensive players, there’s a legitimate question about their defense.Dol-Fan Dupree likes this. -
On offense Burrow is covering up for Zac Taylor’s lack of acumen and uninspiring schemes. I see some similarities to Denver when they had John Elway carrying Dan Reeves for all those years. I have faith in Burrow/Chase but it’s pretty hard to win a SB on player talent alone. -
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https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-power-rankings-post-2023-nfl-free-agency
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/n...-edition-chiefs-stay-on-top-ravens-jets-climb
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...rs-chiefs-eagles-still-top-2-patriots-plunge/ -
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And that's why the games decide who wins and not the "experts".I am looking foreword to the season.
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1) They have real money riding on the outcome.
2) They have a very good record of being generally right.
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Tough thing about ranking the Dolphins is how many games does Armstead and Tua miss? If they can play a full season, assuming defense gets better with Ramsey/Fangio and healthy Ogbah/Howard/Jones, 3rd or 4th. If they miss their usual 3-5 games, 5th-7th.
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Betting odds are just that…gambling. If you watched the Kentucky Derby yesterday, there was NO WAY Mage was going to win. The betting odds were against it.
Same thing with here. Aaron Rodgers is a great quarterback. Brett Favre was a great quarterback but at the end of the day we’re still talking about the New York Jets. The Jets are to the East what the Raiders are to the west…overhyped by the media with the occasional flash in the pan.
I’m not taking anything away from Aaron Rodgers but can we be a bit realistic here? In the NFC, 2 games a year against the Bear, the Lions and the Vikings…with Minnesota providing the only competition for the Packers. But now with Rodgers in the AFC East?
Now he has to play the Dolphins, the Bills and the Patriots twice a year…not to mention this season the Jets will have the face the Chiefs, the Chargers, the Broncos and the Raiders…not to mention all of the other offenses and stout defenses in the AFC.
Now I could as wrong as two teenaged boys tongue kissing in a cold shower, but I really don’t see the stinking New York Jets fairing much better than they historically have…even with Aaron Rodgers.
The Dolphins have their own issues, I’m not overlooking any of them, but it would sure be nice if some of the alleged fans here would place more stock in the powerhouse we do have and not nearly as much as the few faults we do have.VManis and Tuanon4Life like this. -
Jets had 4 QBs combining for 2 TDs and 6 INTs across their last 6 games with a combined rating of 65.6!! Over the entire season their team passer rating was 75, which was dead last in the NFL. Statistically, 1 team passer rating point improvement translates to a 1.08 percentage point increase in win%, so even if Rodgers' 91.1 rating (i.e., close to league average) is a sign of age-related decline that's a realistic expectation of at least 17 percentage point increase in win%, which over 17 games is about 3 extra wins!! THAT is what bettors are looking at (at least the ones using statistical analysis). Jets are very likely a minimum 10+ win team next season with that increasing by 1-3 games depending on Rodgers' going back to previous performance levels.
Regarding the Dolphins, bettors are obviously worried about Tua's health and whether the offense can produce again at a top level next season, but the biggest discrepancy between what people here think and what I think bettors are looking at is what to expect from the defense next year. Fangio is a very good DC, but realistically you should expect an average to slightly above average defense next year, not an elite one. This is what Fangio has done his first season at a new team:
1995 Carolina: 1st season for franchise
1999 Indy: 12 point improvement in points allowed ranking, from 29 to 17
2002 Houston: 1st season for franchise
2011: SF: 14 point improvement in points allowed ranking, from 16 to 2
2015: Chicago: 11 point improvement, from 31 to 20
2019: Denver (as HC): 3 point improvement, from 13 to 10
That's an average of 10 point improvement in points allowed ranking his first year. We were ranked 24 last year, so realistically we should expect an average to slightly above average ranking for the defense. That means that expected wins with last year's team passer rating of 95 (which includes Tua missing games) would be a bit under 10 wins, with that increasing to 12 wins if Tua stays healthy. In other words, Dolphins look good on paper, but like the Jets there are significant uncertainties. Neither team belongs with Buffalo or Cinci since both teams have already proven top-level performance multiple years, and of course KC is in a league by themselves (and they're SB champs).Springveldt and Pauly like this. -
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I'm having visions of Mike White getting crushed behind the Jets OL except he's really old, sassy, and wearing #8.
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