I'm taking a QB if possible. You dont often get a chance for an immediate redo.

 

Even for the most negative of nellies, this trade was highway robbery and could be franchise defining. Now let’s hope we can turn #3 into 3-4 more picks.

 

Yes you take either the best qb available and create a huge competition or try your hardest to trade up for Lawrence. The latter may be impossible but we have the most ammo to perhaps entice them if we offer everything.

Regardless, I think you take a qb for sure. Tua hasn’t shown “it”. The arm strength and mobility are flat out not there.

 

I would be happy with that or Sewell or even though it seems to be an over draft Devante Smith.

 

Trade back a couple of spots and turn that into more picks, and take Chase with that early pick. Our receivers are a trash heap.

 

And if the QB you take doesn't show it either, you've now wasted TWO top 5 picks on QBs, especially when it's premature to write off the first one.

 

If is a very keyword here. I think it’s riskier not to draft another qb in this position. For one, it’s rare to have a top three pick. Two, you could waste even more time waiting on tua to become something he isn’t capable of being. There is risk both sides but at least drafting a qb puts another die on the board instead of one.

 

Too early to know that, I'm not sold on him but I'm not going to panic either.

 

If I were calling the shots, I would take the BYU QB with the third pick, then use the 18th for a WR. Second rounders would go to a LB and a RB.
What I expect the front office to do is trade the third for a couple firsts and a second and take the best available player at WR, LB or C at that spot, and the same with the 18th pick.

 

That's precisely why you trust Flores in this situation. He knows full well how important it is to get a true franchise QB.

Thing is, based on what Flores has said about Tua's overall play and development being fairly good despite a few clunkers, I really doubt we pick a QB with our #3. If we don't pick a QB at #3, then I want a small trade back, get Chase and hopefully another WR with our #18, and then pick a top RB with our first 2nd.

I do think it's a good idea to use a mid-round pick on another QB though because we need a backup (Fitz won't be here forever), and it's better that the backup is a draft pick than a vet just from a potential point of view.

 

And who really has in the college ranks right now outside of Lawrence? Panic move to give up on Tua now.

 

QB QB QB QB QB

 

There is some history to support taking another QB. When Jimmy Johnson first went to Dallas he drafted Aikman and followed up by drafting Steve Walsh #2 over-all. When Aikman finally won the job outright in year 2, Walsh was traded to the Saints for a 1st round pick and a 3rd rounder.

 

I personally want Penei Sewell, but I'd be happy with Najee Harris.

 

But is it? There are 4 possibilities if you draft a second QB this coming off-season: 1) Tua pans out and the new guy doesn't, 2)the new guy pans out and Tua doesn't, 3)both pan out and you trade one or 4) neither pans out. In only one of the four did you waste two draft picks. In one you get a (probably lower) draft pick back, and in two, you wasted one draft pick.

 

Firm believer that you create a healthy competition for tua and draft another QB. There are more good things that come out of that situation than not. Tua rises to the occasion and you trade QB2, or QB2 becomes better and you trade tua. The whole point is finding a damn quaterback so draft a quaterback and have them go at it. The whole "Pysche" of a QB as well is just garbage. Every other position you have to compete for it, it should be no different at quaterback. Get another boy in here and push your qbs to be great. I see no issue here.

 

QBs are a crapshoot, look at the ones that get drafted and don't make it, there is no guarantee that drafting a QB in top 10 is a sure thing, so take advantage of loading up on our early picks with young talent and hope that the circumstances around this year was more of a factor than Tua himself. The only way I would say go with a QB in first round if by miracle we acquired the #1 overall pick from the Jags, then yeah, you can't pass him up.

 

Your theory on possibilities doesn't work out. There are a ton more variables. It's not just great or bust. You have game managers, average qbs, above/below average. Taking a qb high every year isn't a 50/50 proposition you get a tom brady/patrick mahomes. That's not how it works.

That's not to say if as an organization you believe Lawrence is "the guy". If so then you move the world to get him and trade Tua.

Personally I haven't seen that but I'm not an nfl scout, I'm just a fan.

 

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

 

How about you surround Tua with players on offense that can actually play?

His #1 WR is Devante Parker who is way overrated by Dolphins fans. He's a decent player when actually on the field.

His #2 WR today was Isiah Ford a guy who Bill Belichick saw for a week and figured out he can't play football.

His #3 WR today is a converted college quarterback who Jon Gruden took one look at and decided he can't play football.

His #2 WR for most of the season is solely a kick returner on most NFL teams.

 

-Michael Scott

If your QB isn't in the first round you trade down.

 

If you want competition, you probably bring in a middling veteran - like what the Titans did with Tannehill and Mariota. Someone like Cam Newton, Tyrod Taylor, Andy Dalton.
You don't draft another QB unless you really think you missed on Tua. The clunkers are definitely concerning, but he's had some good games and lots of good throws. He's a rookie coming off a major injury and Covid-erased offseason playing with an iffy OL and a total lack of playmakers at the skill spots. Very premature to entirely write him off.

 

I don't think anyone is opposed to bringing in quality WRs. But you can draft quality WRs in the 2nd and we have two picks there. This is the highest draft pick we've had in years, and basically our only chance to get a do-over at acquiring a franchise QB.

 

It's a draft pick, not a date with a girl. Your shot is on every player in every round. I suppose if we just forget to take anybody over the entire seven rounds... Then yeah your quote applies.

 

I wouldn't be opposed to taking a project quarterback in the middle to late rounds.

 

No, the quote applies because the Fins have passed on quality QBs over and over in previous drafts because they thought they had their QB and they were wrong.

 

For the most part that's just QB wasteland - you have to be REALLY lucky to even get a decent back-up, let alone a guy who can compete for a starting spot.

 

No, that never works unless its Fitzpatrick. Draft another quarterback.

 

Hmm gimme Ja'marr Chase, take a QB with our pick. I want another play maker and a QB after we leave the first round.

That is of course unless you're a huge Trevor Lawrence fan, and assume he stands out from the pack of QBs on his own merit then you might take him first. Personally I'm not a believer

 

Tua is a project qb, why do you want another?

 

It worked for the Titans, as I literally mentioned.

Ultimately it depends more on Grier and Flores - if they believe in Tua then QB is a moot point. If not, then expect more of a situation like the Cards the other year where we trade Tua for a lower draft pick and draft a new one.

Difference is, unlike the Cards, we don't hold the first overall pick and would likely be taking the 3rd or 4th QB. If Fields somehow dropped, I'd be more excited.

 

The only hope here is that we get Aaron freaking Rodgers. No other FA qb is coming on the market that was the calibur of tannehill, And no im not comparing Rodgers to tannehill but there are no other qbs coming on the FA market that match Tannehill's skillset. If GB is dumb enough to let him go then that would be our dream situation if we could sell a SB run down in Miami.

 

I wouldn't say they missed on every qb. I think at this point it's safe to say that Tannehill was clearly a good, not great, qb if you placed him in the right system. I would argue our problem has been hiring the wrong head coach for the last decade. I will state again, if you absolutely as an organization believe, Lawrence, Fields, Wilson is "the guy" you take him. However, you trade Tua then and there otherwise you risk killing any value he might have going forward.

Personally, I think you give Tua another year with better weapons, and a more rounded o line. After that if he still struggles than sure sell the farm. Qb is a position that is available in every draft and there is a new darling every year.

 

And yet just about everyone else would say that.

 

While I get what you're saying, that's not exactly the best example. As soon as Tannehill was traded, Vrabel made it perfectly clear that Mariotta was the starter and Tannehill himself talked about how that was a bitter pill to swallow.