Watching him last night was very hard. He couldn't block the outside moves, the inside moves, the power moves, or the speed moves. He had hard times with the short drops and the deep drops. For a while I thought he was just having a problem with Charles Johnson (who is decent), but then they put in their second string 4th round pick and he was still manhandling Martin. I have no doubt he is called out on the next day of practice. This could be a long season, as he resembled Colombo last night.
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Not ready to bury him yet. He's a rookie and I kind of expect some growing pains. Hopefully he looks better next week.
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I think that at some point he lost lucidity, he seemed confused, probably flustered for his many mistakes, because I can't believe he is that bad (losing his man on stunt, falling on his ***, overpowered, false start) and I don't think all of his problem can be related to the swicht left-right [but maybe I'm wrong]
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Keep in mind folks the old school "Left Tackle is soo important b/c they face the other team's best pass rusher" stuff now is nonsense, JMart was going up against a all pro caliber De and got his azz whipped but good..
I am getting a bit concerned about his play though, back to back games he clearly has struggled in to the point we maybe should look at other options at RT or our Qb will get killed, what peeved about last yr is Sparano's refusal to pull Colombo I hope Philbin is not making the same error. -
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I don't really know what the long term prognosis for Martin is, but they need to alter the situation because he's having too much of a disruptive effect on the rest of the offense, and he's getting 75%+ of the snaps at the position so whomever would replace him really needs reps.
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the problem is the Murtha didn't exactly shine during his play-time :no:
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You cannot look at Martin's struggles and say that it's only preseason.
The guy is getting clobbered out there against whoever he lines up against. It's holding the entire offense back as most have stated.. And to believe that in 2.5 weeks time he'll have cleaned most of it up is unrealistic.
I think it's time to get Murtha, Jerry, or Garner 1st team snaps and let Martin develop in practice with the 2s and 3s.
Who would've ever thought: Tannehill, the guy most thought would need time, looks more ready than Martin, the guy most thought would come in and be an immediate upgrade.P h i N s A N i T y, MrClean and Stitches like this. -
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He looks like a freshman inserted into practice with the varsity. He's not ready.
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Can you imagine if this guy is our starting RT when we face JJ Watt and a Wade Phillips defense!!!????
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I think Mark Anderson will line up on JM not Mario, dont know for sure wich side they lineup on or even if they are stationary. Either way Charles Johnson is good and all but he will face tougher schemes and players so he needs to get better or GTFO.Phinatic19 and Eop05 like this. -
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Have they indicated they were moving him over? Hes lined up over RT his entire career beyond high school. I doubt they change that.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...liams-to-left-defensive-end-is-a-huge-mistake
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Christ, this means Fasano is going to be used to help out the RT 90% of the time again.
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His head is spinning about now. He was basically handed a starting job, gift wrapped on a silver platter, and it is apparent IMO that he is not ready. Time to relegate him to backup status for a while, until the game slows down enough for him that he doesn't move like a one legged cat trying to bury sh*t on a frozen pond. -
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Way I see it, JMart should compete for the job this week with Murtha/JJ/Garner
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Being a high draft pick, I think there is only one answer to this Martin situation....
...we try him out at safety.
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Second all, we'll see. I didn't see the last pre-season game. Was he that bad then?Hiruma78 likes this. -
2) Jonathan Martin is not a right tackle.
3) here's the difference between these two needs. there is at least one guy on the roster who can step in at RT and hold down the spot. remember Murtha was hurt all of last season which is why we had to bring in Columbo to begin with. on the flip side, there is no WR on this team that can provide what we need. none of these guys are going to magically flourish into the type of playmaker Tannehill needs.
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Martin SUCKS....no no he SUCKS!
Put in John Jerry until he gets his sh*t together so he doesnt embarrass himself anymore.MrClean likes this.
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